Folded TPTK on flop?
 

I'm still kinda unsure about this hand. Should I call down here? Thoughts?

Reads
MP3 is TAG 14/9/2.5 after 300 hands

MP2 is 20/6/1.5 after 90 hands, so it's possible he's also TAG

Both MP1 and BB are overly loose, MP1 is semi-aggressive, BB is passive


Party Poker 5.00/10.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, BB folds, Hero folds

Re: Folded TPTK on flop?
 

the pot is huge by the time it gets back to you. i think you can call and reevaluate the turn. Since they are TAGs they should be getting frisky trying to take down a ginormous pot. i know i would play JT [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] like MP3. dont make big folds in a pot this big, try and take the party downtown

Re: Folded TPTK on flop?
 

What about capping and bet/folding a blank turn?

Re: Folded TPTK on flop?
 

No way I'd fold that flop. He is aggressive enough to do that with AJ for instance.

Players that cold-call pre-flop are often more aggressive post-flop, even with "marginal" hands.

Re: Folded TPTK on flop?
 

I'm calling the flop and bet/folding the turn. This could easily be a FD or OESD or even an A. Even if its two pair you have to see the turn.

JT [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

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Players that cold-call pre-flop are often more aggressive post-flop, even with "marginal" hands.

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Are 2 TAGs CCing our early open with marginal hands? If this table was
retarded and they could expect 100 callers, fine. That said, what was your
image at the table. Big difference, if you are perceived as the live one, in
their range of hands then.

-ZEN

Re: Folded TPTK on flop?
 

Given the pot size I am okay seeing the turn, but I would fold unimproved then. This is a very scary board to have two TAGs raise on after cold-calling pre-flop. I think you will be up against 99 and/or AQ very often.

Scott

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This could easily be a FD or OESD or even an A

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My money is on the flush draw.

Scott

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the pot is huge by the time it gets back to you. i think you can call and reevaluate the turn. Since they are TAGs they should be getting frisky trying to take down a ginormous pot. i know i would play JT [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] like MP3. dont make big folds in a pot this big, try and take the party downtown

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Would you have coldcalled with JTs preflop?

Re: Folded TPTK on flop?
 

Looking back at the session, my image seemed pretty solid - stats were TAGish for the table (21/10/2.2 after 70 or so hands). I hadn't gotten out of line, no reason for the TAGs to think I was being overaggressive.

I think its likely MP3 was using Poker Tracker, and it's likely he had me labeled as a TAG.