Re: one pair, insanely huge pot
 

i'd agree with that....

Re: one pair, insanely huge pot
 

I think I've seen this before:

Short Stack: Meh

LAG: (Janis Joplin singing:)

Oh, Lord
Won't you give me
A diamond

CO: With his shiny .357 Magnum pointed between your eyes he smiles and says:
(In his best Clint Eastwood imitation:)

"I know what you're thinking. You're trying to remember if I fired five shots or six. Feelin' lucky?

Go ahead and make my day!"

Re: one pair, insanely huge pot
 

I don't really think it matters here if you have QQ, KK or AA, you have telegraphed an overpair and you are clearly beat and drawing to two outs.

Re: one pair, insanely huge pot
 

Holding QQ or AA in this hand was a $1700 difference. How can you tell me that doesn't matter?

Re: one pair, insanely huge pot
 

??? I don't understand. My point is that I would fold one pair here with this action and these stacks. You are very very likely behind. Maybe 10-20% your hand is any good.

Re: one pair, insanely huge pot
 

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB ($500.40)
Hero ($470.40)
UTG ($143)
MP ($527.30)
CO ($371.20)
Button ($406.20)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.

UTG, MP, CO, SB limp, I raise to $30, UTG, MP, CO call.

Flop: ($124) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)

I bet $100, UTG goes all-in for $113, MP reraises to $225, CO calls. Action on me.

UTG is terrible and MP seems somewhat LAG. Not much read on CO.

Just an orbit or two again UTG had posted UTG, everyone folded to me, I raised to $20, he called, he called $30 on a rag flop and folded to $100 all-in on the the turn (a king).

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Cold call = set hoping you push so he can get in with you drawing to two outs.

From either villan's perspective, you might very well have AA. They know that party players won't lay down to AA to this action, and therefore it's pretty safe to say that you aren't having someone take a shot at you.

Without a really good reason I fold here.

EDIT: Now i read results and see that my analysis was completely off since I thought he had a set. These guys all play like donks.

Re: one pair, insanely huge pot
 

Wow. Fold.

Re: one pair, insanely huge pot
 

Newbie here, for reasons already sufficiently treated this is a fold. I spew chips like you guys only have nightmares about, but Montechristo's avatar is so funny I had to post just to give him/her love (I'm literally crying, my dog has never looked so worried.)
Sorry for a worthless post but I couldn't resist.

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Re: one pair, insanely huge pot
 

I wanted to post one of the interesting hands I played few days back and it is very similar to this hand. It is complete opposite of the advise given here. I will explain my though process along the way

Live game at a casino,1/2 no limt

UTG, UTG+1,Hero have about same amount of chips ( 250-300 range). My read is both are decent tight players

Preflop
UTG raises to $17
UTG+1 calls $17
floded to Button/Hero

$15-$20 is the standard raise with a big pair at this table. First I thought UTG has big pair (AA/KK) and then UTG+1 call somehow made me think he also has a big pair(not AA/KK). When I looked at my hand I had QQ.
Now I immdeiately put UTG+1 on JJ and was pretty sure UTG had AA/KK and I am a big underdog. But instead of folding here I decided to see what flop brings so I called.

Hero calls , blinds fold.

Flop (pot 53) - 3s 5d , 7c
UTG bets $25
UTG+1 raises to $50
Hero calls $50

By now UTG is confused and he is thinking he might be beat. But still calls $25. This made me somewhat more positive that he had KK than AA.

Turn (pot 203) - [3s5d7c]10d
UTG checks
UTG+1 bets $50
I took some time and then call $50. I wanted to give impression that I made a set here.
UTG starts shaking his head unbelievingly but still calls $50.

My heart was racing here as we all are low on chips compared to the pot sige and its difficult to force a fold

River( pot 353) - [3s5d7c10d]7d
UTG checks
UTG+1 checks
I liked both the river and UTG+1's check. I said all-in with all the confidence I can muster ( about 150 )
UTG thinks, thinks and then flods
UTG+1 calls and shows JJ
Pot - approx 650.
After seeing QQ at showdown UTG left the table in disgust

May be it is not possible to play it this way every time but other than HU, I beleive smooth call by last position puts a lot of pressure on the first guy to act.

(I am a rookie learning poker but this play gave me a lot of confidence.)

Now if you compare this play with the hand in this thread, what difference do you see other than one guy already all-in?
If you think you can beat the all-in hand do you continue in the hand?