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POKhER 11-27-2005 06:02 PM

AJ vs Pre/Post flop Aggresion heads up
 
Read <font color="green"> UTG Has PT stats of:26/13/1.6 over 100 hands
I've seen a few hands but no strange behaviour, Pretty aggressive but jumps into "call down mode" pretty fast.

Overall hes a pretty ok player, With a hint of Weak tightness i'd say. </font>

6max .50/1 Game
Preflop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in BB
UTG Raises, Button Calls, Hero Calls, Everyone else HAS FOLDED.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero bets, <font color="red">UTG Raises</font>, Button Folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero bets, <font color="red">UTG Raises</font>,Hero....



Now i played this hand badly, but i won't reveal the line i took and the line i feel i should of taken. I will leave this up to you guys.

Please grunch, don't worry about anyone parroting the saem responses - Just want to get an idea of everyones individual opinions

numeri 11-27-2005 06:17 PM

Re: AJ vs Pre/Post flop Aggresion heads up
 
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Pretty aggressive but jumps into "call down mode" pretty fast.

Overall hes a pretty ok player, With a hint of Weak tightness i'd say. </font>

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It's tempting to fold the turn here. It looks like you're up against an overpair at least, and possibly a flush.

deception5 11-27-2005 06:24 PM

Re: AJ vs Pre/Post flop Aggresion heads up
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Pretty aggressive but jumps into "call down mode" pretty fast.

Overall hes a pretty ok player, With a hint of Weak tightness i'd say. </font>

[/ QUOTE ]
It's tempting to fold the turn here. It looks like you're up against an overpair at least, and possibly a flush.

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Yeah when a weak tighty raises a scary board after being bet into on 2 streets, you've got to be concerned - this isn't KJ very often.

11-27-2005 06:27 PM

Re: AJ vs Pre/Post flop Aggresion heads up
 
Allright. I would CR the flop. Should he 3-bet Im calling down. I really dont like the turn donk. As you played it I think you can fold the turn.

11-27-2005 07:54 PM

Re: AJ vs Pre/Post flop Aggresion heads up
 
Grunching as requested:

Against a tricky player, I'd call down, because I'd hate to make a hard decision against a possible bluff raise, and calling down gets us to showdown for the same cost as check-raising the turn. In addition, it induces tricky players to bluff more hands that we beat, like middle pair or a weak J.

Check-raising the turn doesn't fold anything that beats us. Flushes will 3-bet us, and a 9 has odds to call in hopes of boating up. It might fold a J, but we beat or tie any of those anyway.

Against a straightforward player, I'd donk the turn and fold to a raise. If he just calls, check the turn to either induce a bluff or get a free showdown. I don't think we're ahead of enough hands to value bet here, but I haven't stoved it. I

11-27-2005 08:01 PM

Re: AJ vs Pre/Post flop Aggresion heads up
 
After reading the other posts, I realized that I forgot the flop action.

I don't like check-raising the flop. I think bet/3-bet gets us in better shape to decide on the turn and folds the button on this semi-drawy flop. If it is capped, I'm thinking overpair. If not, we are in better shape. Then if he wakes up and bets again, we know it means much more.

waffle 11-27-2005 08:28 PM

Re: AJ vs Pre/Post flop Aggresion heads up
 
grunch...

check raise the flop.

GTSamIAm 11-27-2005 08:40 PM

Re: AJ vs Pre/Post flop Aggresion heads up
 
Fold preflop. Pound these players with a better hand, if you were suited the call would be fine.

waffle 11-27-2005 08:47 PM

Re: AJ vs Pre/Post flop Aggresion heads up
 
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Fold preflop. Pound these players with a better hand, if you were suited the call would be fine.

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no no no no no no. i realize this post of mine is worthless, but just no.

GTSamIAm 11-27-2005 08:54 PM

Re: AJ vs Pre/Post flop Aggresion heads up
 
What's so great about AJo here? I think calling is marginal, and this hand will be hard to play correctly postlop.


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