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flyangler 12-30-2005 01:08 PM

Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
I say yes.
I have played at most of the major sites on different platforms (both Mac and PC) and Full Tilt seems to have a strangley consistent level of suckouts on the river, variance doesn't seem to account for this bizarre repeating occurance. Is there any worse?

pokerdirty 12-30-2005 01:21 PM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
Hollywood Poker

Do not put money into this site under any circumstance.

12-30-2005 01:45 PM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
nope its got to be party poker. ill list two out of over a dozen bankroll terrorizing experiences ive had there.

over the span of two days, i manage to get all in proflop with AA five times. i lost all 5 times, totaling something ike 250 big blinds down the drain in 5 hands, in which i was a 75% to 80% fav each time.

then in two straight hands i get decent pocket pairs, flop comes KKK and QQQ; they had the case card each time.

that website absolutely sickens me.

KINGOFINLAND 12-30-2005 01:50 PM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
Hi flyangler,

I had just made my first deposit last night and made few ballsy plays against you that got rewarded.

I'm sorry but you know how it goes..

KING

SoftcoreRevolt 12-30-2005 02:26 PM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
You are incorrect, the suckout level is normal. If you could play poker right maybe your AA wouldn't lose to 83o. Any good player isn't going to lose with such a good hand to such a bad one.

12-30-2005 02:32 PM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
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If you could play poker right maybe your AA wouldn't lose to 83o. Any good player isn't going to lose with such a good hand to such a bad one.

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Don't you want to be up against 83o with AA? How can you control it when you do lose? Just don't understand what your saying.

12-30-2005 04:42 PM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
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You are incorrect, the suckout level is normal. If you could play poker right maybe your AA wouldn't lose to 83o. Any good player isn't going to lose with such a good hand to such a bad one.

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youre not talking to me, are you? [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

12-30-2005 04:50 PM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
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nope its got to be party poker. ill list two out of over a dozen bankroll terrorizing experiences ive had there.

over the span of two days, i manage to get all in proflop with AA five times. i lost all 5 times, totaling something ike 250 big blinds down the drain in 5 hands, in which i was a 75% to 80% fav each time.

then in two straight hands i get decent pocket pairs, flop comes KKK and QQQ; they had the case card each time.

that website absolutely sickens me.

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I would contact party poker. They always reimbursed me when I experienced such obvious software malfunction.

12-30-2005 04:54 PM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
very funny [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Riverman 12-30-2005 05:17 PM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
I have been told by a very reliable source that FCP has bots that play poorly and win on the river in large pots because of their software.

12-30-2005 05:23 PM

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I have been told by a very reliable source that FCP has bots that play poorly and win on the river in large pots because of their software.

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you really need to back a statement like that up if you want anyone to take you seriously.

2+2 wannabe 12-30-2005 06:07 PM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
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I have been told by a very reliable source that FCP has fish that play poorly and win on the river in large pots because of their suckouts.

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you don't say....

12-30-2005 06:18 PM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
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I have been told by a very reliable source that FCP has fish that play poorly and win on the river in large pots because of their suckouts.

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you don't say....

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haha....QFT

Quicksilvre 12-30-2005 07:04 PM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
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I have been told by a very reliable source that FCP has bots that play poorly and win on the river in large pots because of their software.

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you really need to back a statement like that up if you want anyone to take you seriously.

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I don't think being taking seriously is his aim.

SoftcoreRevolt 12-30-2005 08:00 PM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
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If you could play poker right maybe your AA wouldn't lose to 83o. Any good player isn't going to lose with such a good hand to such a bad one.

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Don't you want to be up against 83o with AA? How can you control it when you do lose? Just don't understand what your saying.

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Of course you do, but a good player uses his skill to win with AA against that 83o at showdown. A player with his full arsenal of strategies and tactics should never lose when the cards give him such a giant advantage.

th3 mol3 12-30-2005 08:16 PM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
Total/Landora Poker.
Pacific Poker is also pretty bad.

12-30-2005 08:32 PM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
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If you could play poker right maybe your AA wouldn't lose to 83o. Any good player isn't going to lose with such a good hand to such a bad one.

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Don't you want to be up against 83o with AA? How can you control it when you do lose? Just don't understand what your saying.

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Of course you do, but a good player uses his skill to win with AA against that 83o at showdown. A player with his full arsenal of strategies and tactics should never lose when the cards give him such a giant advantage.

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You have to rapidly press the corresponding punch and kick buttons and rotate the controller counterclockwise to get extra hits from your AA supercombo.

roueful 12-31-2005 12:19 AM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
It also helps to have allin macroed to autofire.

MicroBob 12-31-2005 01:33 AM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
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Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?

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No way.
It's the BEST site for suck-outs.

I think Party and Stars have their work cut out for them as I haven't been winning via the suck-out nearly as much on those sites. But full-tilt got it right!!
Party and Stars need to change their RNG to correctly keep up with the suck-out ratio at Full Tilt.

12-31-2005 02:14 AM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
If you assume this thread is about all in suckouts from preflop all in situations, then you cant control losing with way better hands than your opponent(s). Just like in the bad beat forum where I posted my aces losing to a 1 outer on the river against 2 opponents, after calling THEIR all ins preflop. I geuss you're saying that because I lost I'm not good enough of a player to win with AA?

SoftcoreRevolt 12-31-2005 02:17 AM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
Sounds like your game needs some work if you lost that hand.

Monty Cantsin 12-31-2005 03:10 AM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
Sorry ORT, but I'm going to have to agree with Softcore on this one. One of the sure-fire signs of a soft table that I look for when I first sit down is players calling multiple all-ins with AA.

/mc

12-31-2005 01:28 PM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
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Sorry ORT, but I'm going to have to agree with Softcore on this one. One of the sure-fire signs of a soft table that I look for when I first sit down is players calling multiple all-ins with AA.

/mc

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well i think you guys all have too little information to make these judgements. first off, during that span, i only had more than 1 person allin once. and in that hand a small stack pushed utg with Q4o [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] and another went all in with TT. so basically some of you are saying that if i was a "good" player, i shouldve folded this almost 3:1 hand, because there are multiple all ins? its basically folding the nuts. like holding JJ on a 3 8 J board with two hearts, if you have your opponent on the flush draw, you gonna fold that too? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

the_main 12-31-2005 01:54 PM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
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Sorry ORT, but I'm going to have to agree with Softcore on this one. One of the sure-fire signs of a soft table that I look for when I first sit down is players calling multiple all-ins with AA.

/mc

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well i think you guys all have too little information to make these judgements. first off, during that span, i only had more than 1 person allin once. and in that hand a small stack pushed utg with Q4o [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] and another went all in with TT. so basically some of you are saying that if i was a "good" player, i shouldve folded this almost 3:1 hand, because there are multiple all ins? its basically folding the nuts. like holding JJ on a 3 8 J board with two hearts, if you have your opponent on the flush draw, you gonna fold that too? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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You have to fold if the flush card is coming. Otherwise, don't.

gorie 12-31-2005 04:23 PM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
i dunno but it's the best site for giving me $1,100 for just playing there!!! i just won 3 drawings today for their $10k a day giveaway.!! that's pretty exciting.

Michael Davis 12-31-2005 05:57 PM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
"If you assume this thread is about all in suckouts from preflop all in situations, then you cant control losing with way better hands than your opponent(s). Just like in the bad beat forum where I posted my aces losing to a 1 outer on the river against 2 opponents, after calling THEIR all ins preflop. I geuss you're saying that because I lost I'm not good enough of a player to win with AA?"

Technically you are right, but I'd gather you are too stupid to ever be a very good poker player.

-Michael

ChuckyB 12-31-2005 07:17 PM

Re: Is Full Tilt the worst site for Suckouts?
 
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A player with his full arsenal of strategies and tactics should never lose when the cards give him such a giant advantage.

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You can't never say 'never'. Playing with skill will lessen the chances of an 86% favorite going down the pooper...but that 14% can't possibly be reduced to 0%


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