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ggbman 12-10-2005 08:41 PM

Intersting quote from \"The Professer, the Banker, and the Suicide King
 
I need to find to exact quote, but Barry Greenstein says something to the degree of "Outside of the Corporation, Andy Beal is the best HU limit holdem player in the world" and "There was a lot of risk for us because we only have something like a 2-1 edge". I will double check to make sure i understood correctly, but if i did this is [censored] hilarious. You have to be [censored] horrible to be q 2-1 dog, let alone be a world class player. So many people would glady play these guys if they offered them 2-1 or even 60-40 on their money.

TStoneMBD 12-10-2005 08:47 PM

Re: Intersting quote from \"The Professer, the Banker, and the Suicide
 
you should include the blind structure and duration of play before making a post like this. iirc they played over a very long period of time.

12-10-2005 09:15 PM

Re: Intersting quote from \"The Professer, the Banker, and the Suicide
 
I dont have the book infront of me but if I remember correctly they played around 200 hours with eachtother which is like 5k hands. I think many players would play them if they were given 60/40.

I think the statement is a blantant lie. I have never seen barry or howard play the 500/1000 games online. I dont know but isnt it pointless to play in the "big game" if everybody there is better than everybody else. Also is that game running every day?

And if they are so great at no limit as they also claim why arent they playing in the 100/200 nl game on prima. I say its all bs and that they are good enough to beat business men who play poker for fun but would never be able to hang with the best online players.

Ps. I wouldnt be so harsh if it wasnt for the fact that these guys claim to be gods of poker. I am all for table selection and playing within your skill level. But if you arent good enough dont say you are.

La Brujita 12-10-2005 09:22 PM

Re: Intersting quote from \"The Professer, the Banker, and the Suicide
 
You don't think BG or Ivey for example would have an edge in the 100-200nl game online?

I think they both would have a decent edge and curious what others think.

Army Eye 12-10-2005 09:55 PM

Re: Intersting quote from \"The Professer, the Banker, and the Suicide
 
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I think the statement is a blantant lie. I have never seen barry or howard play the 500/1000 games online.

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Why would they play that small?

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And if they are so great at no limit as they also claim why arent they playing in the 100/200 nl game on prima.

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So you repeatedly think these guys should, for whatever reason, step down in stakes. To prove themselves, or something? Interesting take.

ggbman 12-10-2005 10:01 PM

Re: Intersting quote from \"The Professer, the Banker, and the Suicide
 
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I think the statement is a blantant lie. I have never seen barry or howard play the 500/1000 games online.

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Why would they play that small?

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And if they are so great at no limit as they also claim why arent they playing in the 100/200 nl game on prima.

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So you repeatedly think these guys should, for whatever reason, step down in stakes. To prove themselves, or something? Interesting take.

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You get in at least 2x as many hands in, and also these are not huge jump downs in stakes. And Prima has 200/400 HU NL. I dont think any of those pro's would have a singificant edge, if they have any, over guys like Prahlad, greenplastic, Erik 123 etc...

They play primarily mixed games and play maybe 1/10th as many hands per month of limit or NL hold-em in particualar. There is no reason online specialists in these areas would be big underdogs.

imported_CaseClosed326 12-10-2005 10:04 PM

Re: Intersting quote from \"The Professer, the Banker, and the Suicide
 
I think the quote is that the Banker becomes one of the top limit holdem players. Not that he is better than everyone outside the corp.

ggbman 12-10-2005 10:36 PM

Re: Intersting quote from \"The Professer, the Banker, and the Suicide
 
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I think the quote is that the Banker becomes one of the top limit holdem players. Not that he is better than everyone outside the corp.

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Could be, they still wouldnt have a 2-1 edge though, or anything close to it

mmcd 12-10-2005 11:10 PM

Re: Intersting quote from \"The Professer, the Banker, and the Suicide
 
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I think the quote is that the Banker becomes one of the top limit holdem players. Not that he is better than everyone outside the corp.

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Could be, they still wouldnt have a 2-1 edge though, or anything close to it

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Wasn't Beal playing really long sessions and the pros kept subbing in fresh players? If so 2-1 isn't completely ridiciulous.

Punker 12-10-2005 11:30 PM

Re: Intersting quote from \"The Professer, the Banker, and the Suicide King
 
Quote:

I didn't have any misgivings about playing him higher when we were ahead of him. But whenever something negative happens, you have a bunch of people whining. And let's say we're a two to one favorite. Two to one favorites don't always win.

I don't think he's saying he thought they were a 2-1 favorite.


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