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11-30-2005 03:00 PM

QQ fold on turn?
 
Hero dealt QQ UTG+1.

UTG limps, Hero raises, MP 3-bets, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop T 7 4r

UTG checks, Hero checks, MP bets, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn 2

UTG checks, Hero bets, MP calls, UTG raises, Hero?

sean c 11-30-2005 03:03 PM

Re: QQ fold on turn?
 
Capp pre flop and bet the flop. Hand plays different at that point.

Forbillz 11-30-2005 03:06 PM

Re: QQ fold on turn?
 
I actually would be into the raiser on the flop. First of all, you may have the best hand. Most people's 3-bet range include AK, JJ, even 10-10. Combined, there are more ways to make those hands than AA, KK. Granted, 10-10 has caught you here, but...

The other reason is that it will likely protect your hand. I'd expect that the PFR will raise you here. You'll often get UTG to fold facing 2-cold. If not, you have a better sense for the strength of his hand.

Considering your line, I think I call through. The raiser could be on a set, but could also be A10 or flush draw.

I think I call down.

Nikademus 11-30-2005 03:37 PM

Re: QQ fold on turn?
 
Cap the pre-flop.

Lead out on the flop, or check/raise if you want to string UTG along with you.

Turn/River, call down at this point.

11-30-2005 03:45 PM

Re: QQ fold on turn?
 
You should have capped it preflop and lead out on the flop. But if youre checking it must be for a planned c/r not being weak tight with an overpair.

If you checked the flop i would make an c/r to MP on the turn since the 2 couldnt have helped anyone.

But now to your dilemma:
UTG kan have a bigger pair or TT but i still think you have to call it. More probably he has something like A10s with a flushdraw.

wrong play preflop and flop leads to your problem at the turn as sean said in the previous post.


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