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joop 12-09-2005 07:47 PM

cold 3bet flushdraw on turn
 
PP 3/6 6max, 6handed.

Hero dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on button.

2 folds, LAG calls (80/30), hero raises, tight somewhat passive SB 3bets (15/10), unknown BB calls, LAG and hero call.

Flop comes 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4 players, 12 SB

SB bets out, 2 calls, hero raises, SB 3bets, 2 calls, hero calls. (Should have capped for value?)

Turn comes 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4 players, 12 BB

SB bets out, 1 fold, LAG raises leaving himself with $3, Hero 3bets...

Anyone like this turn 3bet?

jba 12-09-2005 07:52 PM

Re: cold 3bet flushdraw on turn
 
"Anyone like this turn 3bet? "

holy cow no. if SB doesn't have AA/KK/QQ/JJ I'll be damned, and there's no way he's folding any of those after you fail to cap preflop and flop.

I cap that flop every day, twice on sundays

edit: clarification

milesdyson 12-09-2005 07:59 PM

Re: cold 3bet flushdraw on turn
 
yes, cap the flop.

no, don't spend more than you have to to see the river.

imported_leader 12-09-2005 07:59 PM

Re: cold 3bet flushdraw on turn
 
How weak is this guy post flop? He almost certainly has overpair. Will he fold it? There's also some risk that he caps you here.

joop 12-09-2005 08:01 PM

Re: cold 3bet flushdraw on turn
 
No reads other than stats, sorry.

Stinkybeaver 12-09-2005 08:07 PM

Re: cold 3bet flushdraw on turn
 
Cap flop call turn board pairing sucks for your hand.

joop 12-09-2005 11:52 PM

Re: cold 3bet flushdraw on turn
 
[ QUOTE ]
"Anyone like this turn 3bet? "

holy cow no. if SB doesn't have AA/KK/QQ/JJ I'll be damned, and there's no way he's folding any of those after you fail to cap preflop and flop.

I cap that flop every day, twice on sundays

edit: clarification

[/ QUOTE ]

SB did have AA, and he did fold... and boy was he furious, not sure why since he would have lost more if I'd just called.

The LAG did have me beat on the turn though, however, I hit my flush on the river.

Peter Harris 12-10-2005 08:29 AM

Re: cold 3bet flushdraw on turn
 
hmm. SB has 3-bet PF and bet-3bet the flop.

I cap this flop, but certainly don't 3bet the turn. SB looks to have a lot of things that beat you; even if it's just AK you are drawing to an 8 that may not be enough. The hearts are your only real outs (and you must factor in the times you hit your flush and lose to the boat).

I raise PF, call 3bet; raise-cap flop; cold call turn and call a 3-bet. You're not pushing SB out here. I call down an 8/A on the river; bet or raise a heart river (duh).

EDIT: goddarnit, SB folded AA on this board? buddy list [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


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