Bet river here?
 

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
[color=#666666]2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises</font>, [color=#666666]3 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](4 players)</font>
BB checks, [color=#CC3333]UTG+2 bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, BB folds.

Turn: (5.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]UTG+2 bets</font>, MP2 calls, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (11.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB

Re: Bet river here?
 

Yes.

-Jaran

Re: Bet river here?
 

Should I check if there was say 3 callers or more?

Re: Bet river here?
 

There are so many other draws out there besides flush draws that I am betting that river regardless of how many callers you had.

Re: Bet river here?
 

raise the flop

Re: Bet river here?
 

I can't think of a place where I check this river.

-Jaran

Re: Bet river here?
 

Grunch

This is a tough situation, but I would bet. If you have the best hand, you may make 2 more big bets. If you get check-raised you can pretty easily throw your hand away. So I see this as a risk one bet to win two situation.

The answer would also depend on what you know about the players, are they tricky or straight forward.

Re: Bet river here?
 

Really throw the hand away to a check raise? even for 1 more bet. I thought SSHE said never throw the hand away if the pot is big for 1 more bet?

Re: Bet river here?
 

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raise the flop

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I don't think we have the equity for this.

are you happy if the turn is the T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?

Re: Bet river here?
 

Should I have raised the flop to get the free card on the turn? I thought I was getting good pot odds for a gutshot, greater than 10 to 1

Re: Bet river here?
 

not really, but the pot is big enough where I do not want to fold the turn UI and giving myself 5/6ish outs, I am not going to have the correct pot odds to call the turn. Also I would prefer it if people were not donking into me all the time, and raising them is usually a good deterent.

Re: Bet river here?
 

(9 max, 10 handed) Neat trick.

Re: Bet river here?
 

I'm just curious, when I made the flop call, did I have equity to do so? I counted 4 outs for a 10 to 1 gutshot?

Re: Bet river here?
 

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If you get check-raised you can pretty easily throw your hand away.

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don't listen to this, give in and do the crying call if check raised.

i think that raising the flop and free carding is a decent idea.

Re: Bet river here?
 

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I'm just curious, when I made the flop call, did I have equity to do so? I counted 4 outs for a 10 to 1 gutshot?

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yes you can at least peel this flop

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I'm just curious, when I made the flop call, did I have equity to do so? I counted 4 outs for a 10 to 1 gutshot?

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yeah you did.

i'm having trouble counting the Ace outs for much: they all complete an OESD, and the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] is troublesome (though perhaps not as much so as the T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], b/c it would take out one of the likely flush drawing hands [Ax]). So you have maybe 1.5 Ace outs and 3.5 for the tens so about 5 total.

I also agree with Adam22: your options are checking and bet/calling.

[note: delete the word "texas" at the 1/2 texas hold em line when you put the HH into bison's converter].

Re: Bet river here?
 

If this table was playing like the typical rock garden of Party 1/2, I would check the river here.

Re: Bet river here?
 

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There are so many other draws out there besides flush draws that I am betting that river regardless of how many callers you had.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this a reason to check the river? Like the only hand that will call you is a hand that beats you (at Party 1/2, .5/1 is a different story). I think it's obvious to the villans that hero has a least AJ.