Re: Curtains hand #3
 

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I push any 2 UTG for FE sometimes, maybe it's a leak letting it get to that point.

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Ugh, pushing any two UTG for FE is far, far worse than this, and far more of a leak as well!

Re: Curtains hand #3
 

I dont push any 2 v often in such situations.

Re: Curtains hand #3
 

I don't think Curtains and Tigerite mean that letting it get to that point is necessarily the problem. Pushing junk into 7 people isn't often good. Sometimes you just have to wait and take the BB.

As far as this hand goes I think J8s is ok, but certainly not much worse. If you had to let this go, and got junk UTG, then I think you just have to let that go too.

Re: Curtains hand #3
 

I like this push, J8s is actually pretty solid against likely calling ranges.