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amoeba 09-28-2005 01:52 PM

for those playing 400 and above
 
So I have been beating the 200 6 max games fairly profitably (11ptbbs/100) 4tabling.

while I do not have a big enough sample size to mark this as my true winrate, I certainly think that my true winrate shouldn't be any lower than say 7.5ptbbs/100.

My problem is at some point certainly it would seem that it would be less profitable to move up. while you might still find an edge against the setminers and good Lags which fill the higher games, these games are simply lacking in the calling stations that made lower games so profitable.

So I ask you guys, what motivates you guys to go higher and higher? Is it just to improve your poker? certainly at some point you can't multitable anymore while still maintaining a winrate thats more than 1/2 of your winrate 1 limit lower.

thanks
amoeba

Raven 09-28-2005 02:00 PM

Re: for those playing 400 and above
 
I'm playing 600 nl 6 max and theres still a lot of bad lags you can beat. And Im still able to maintain a 5-6 PTBB/100, so the hourly rate 4 tabling is somewhat interesting, to say the least.

amoeba 09-28-2005 02:03 PM

Re: for those playing 400 and above
 
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I'm playing 600 nl 6 max and theres still a lot of bad lags you can beat. And Im still able to maintain a 5-6 PTBB/100, so the hourly rate 4 tabling is somewhat interesting, to say the least.

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interesting. this gives me good hope.

Isura 09-28-2005 02:05 PM

Re: for those playing 400 and above
 
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So I ask you guys, what motivates you guys to go higher and higher? Is it just to improve your poker? certainly at some point you can't multitable anymore while still maintaining a winrate thats more than 1/2 of your winrate 1 limit lower.


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Well, money is a pretty big motivator. By my quick calculation, you're making about $70/hr right now correct? But why not aim for $100/hr, $200 even? Also , moving up will provide more of a challenge, and will probably be more intellectually stimulating.

Now if you play as a signficant source of income, you may not want to take the risk and time to learn to win at a higher limit. Nothing wrong with grinding a lower limit and still making a very significant amount of money.

amoeba 09-28-2005 02:11 PM

Re: for those playing 400 and above
 
well I guess its a tradeoff factor. I'm not sure I want to say increase from 70/hour to 100/hour while having much bigger swings and also doing more work.

I don't know, perhaps I'm just giving too much credit to those playing above me.

I do think a lot of the reason for moving up after a certain point is pride though.

Raven 09-28-2005 02:19 PM

Re: for those playing 400 and above
 
But making 200/hour is possible a 3/6, imagine 5/10 and 10/20 ... Why limit yourselve ? Move up and see if you can beat the limit with your game. I dont think that the difference between 70/hour and 200/hour is trivial.

amoeba 09-28-2005 02:20 PM

Re: for those playing 400 and above
 
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But making 200/hour is possible a 3/6, imagine 5/10 and 10/20 ... Why limit yourselve ? Move up and see if you can beat the limit with your game. I dont think that the difference between 70/hour and 200/hour is trivial.

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no of course not. I just don't know if 200/hour is feasible for me.

oh well, no fear.

you guys watch out. I'm moving on up to the east side.

MTBlue 09-28-2005 02:23 PM

Re: for those playing 400 and above
 
I destroyed the 200 NL games for $100/hr 4 tabling this summer and I thought there wasn't any reason to move up. The low bankroll requirements to win rate seemed to make the move up foolish. But after awhile I got bored, I've seen almost every type of play made at 200 NL and figured out strategies to beat the best players in the game but I was ready for a new challenge. The 400 NL game is slightly more profitable than the 200 NL but when I moved up 1000 NL two weeks ago, I foudn a much better game than the 400NL. I've been on fire pr averaging 7.PTBB/100 (15,000 hands) and the play is much different from 200NL but is still exploitable, i.e. people will stack off with top pair like hands. Main reasons to move up. 1. More money 2. higher intellectual stimiluation and 3. more horrendous lags to donate money.

yvesaint 09-28-2005 02:29 PM

Re: for those playing 400 and above
 
i get bored

Raven 09-28-2005 02:33 PM

Re: for those playing 400 and above
 
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1. More money 2. higher intellectual stimiluation and 3. more horrendous lags to donate money.

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Thats it, especially number 3.


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