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augie00 11-15-2005 01:49 PM

party 3/6 facing tough turn raise
 
villian is 14/12 after 482 hands.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, MP1 calls.

Turn: (4 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, Hero?

Dariel86 11-15-2005 02:08 PM

Re: party 3/6 facing tough turn raise
 
Folds. The pot is small and you are behind most of the time.

Mister Z 11-15-2005 02:15 PM

Re: party 3/6 facing tough turn raise
 
Bet the flop. Why the C/R? The pot is small and there are only 4 players. I'm folding this turn. Calling down with 2nd best hands in small pots like this ain't smart.


mdob 11-15-2005 02:24 PM

Re: party 3/6 facing tough turn raise
 
Hmm, villain's play doesn't seem consistent with too many hands. Based on his PFR, I think AQ and 99 are unlikely. Based on his VPIP, I think 33 is unlikely. All other 2-pair/set hands are virtually impossible. I suppose he could have some mega-draw (TJs), but again, I think his VPIP is too low. I'd say 99 is most likely, followed by AQ, followed by TJs.

The pot's probably too small to continue when you're likely to be drawing dead.

silkyslim 11-15-2005 02:29 PM

Re: party 3/6 facing tough turn raise
 
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Hmm, villain's play doesn't seem consistent with too many hands. Based on his PFR, I think AQ and 99 are unlikely. Based on his VPIP, I think 33 is unlikely. All other 2-pair/set hands are virtually impossible. I suppose he could have some mega-draw (TJs), but again, I think his VPIP is too low. I'd say 99 is most likely, followed by AQ, followed by TJs.

The pot's probably too small to continue when you're likely to be drawing dead.

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Ax [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] is a possibility if the "x" isnt too small.

jason_t 11-15-2005 02:29 PM

Re: party 3/6 facing tough turn raise
 
This is not a tough turn raise. This is an easy turn fold.

MrEngenic 11-15-2005 02:37 PM

Re: party 3/6 facing tough turn raise
 
I'd like to talk more about the flop. I see absolutely no reason to checkraise. Just bet out. I think the turn is an easy fold.

augie00 11-15-2005 03:26 PM

Re: party 3/6 facing tough turn raise
 
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I'd like to talk more about the flop. I see absolutely no reason to checkraise. Just bet out. I think the turn is an easy fold.

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I guess I checkraised because I always checkraise. I am not sure if there is much of a difference whether or not I checkraise, except it gives me a little more deception.

B Dids 11-15-2005 03:27 PM

Re: party 3/6 facing tough turn raise
 
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This is not a tough turn raise. This is an easy turn fold.

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Basically.

This hand is easier if you'd just bet the flop too.

I am now a firm believer in the Entity P. Giraffe School of Fastplaying.

Rootabager 11-15-2005 03:28 PM

Re: party 3/6 facing tough turn raise
 
fold.
pot isnt too big and your probaly behind


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