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party36master 05-06-2005 06:32 PM

Blind Stealing Poll
 
I think I'm stealing too much.
Rather than post PT numbers, I'll try to figure this out through a poll.

Assume the structure is $3/$6, w/$1 small blind, and $3 large blind.
You are in CO, and it is folded to you.
Button, SB, and BB are all 14% VPIP TAGs.
Suppose you have no blind related reads.

How do you play the following hands:

lehighguy 05-06-2005 06:55 PM

Re: Blind Stealing Poll
 
I dont think A5s and A5o should be getting such a large differntiation in polling response. The value of suitedness decreases greatly in this scenerio. You playing to win via pair or fold, not a flush.

Bubbagump 05-06-2005 08:25 PM

Re: Blind Stealing Poll
 
Your post didn't specify any type of read on the Button but I think any one of these hands is worth open raising provided you think there is fair chance that by raising you will be playing the rest of the hand against only the blinds.

I prefer to raise more in these types of situations than less becuase if you get a reputation for trying to steal a lot from late position you will get paid off more often when you open raise in late postion with a real hand.

Nobody like open raising with rockets and ending up only taking the blinds.

my .02

surfdoc 05-06-2005 08:30 PM

Re: Blind Stealing Poll
 
Open limping would be awesome.

Bluffoon 05-06-2005 08:31 PM

Re: Blind Stealing Poll
 
[ QUOTE ]
I think I'm stealing too much.
Rather than post PT numbers, I'll try to figure this out through a poll.

Assume the structure is $3/$6, w/$1 small blind, and $3 large blind.
You are in CO, and it is folded to you.
Button, SB, and BB are all 14% VPIP TAGs.
Suppose you have no blind related reads.

How do you play the following hands:

[/ QUOTE ]

I voted raise all except for 55. I think 55 is borderline raise/fold but I just don't like going to war with a small pp that has little chance to improve. Can anybody that raises 55 from tell me why I might be wrong?

TStoneMBD 05-06-2005 09:05 PM

Re: Blind Stealing Poll
 
my attsteal was 41% at 3/6. i was raising all of those hands. now i fold A6o-A2o from the CO unless the BB is extremely tight.

xPuns1her 05-06-2005 09:57 PM

Re: Blind Stealing Poll
 
I steal too much as well.. except it isnt called stealing because the BB has a hand and rapes me.

party36master 05-06-2005 10:05 PM

Re: Blind Stealing Poll
 
[quote
I voted raise all except for 55. I think 55 is borderline raise/fold but I just don't like going to war with a small pp that has little chance to improve. Can anybody that raises 55 from tell me why I might be wrong?

[/ QUOTE ]

I think that the big blind would defend something like Axs or KTo. At least w/55, you're ahead preflop, can bet the flop, and can win a checkfest if it comes down to that.

I voted raise for all except K9o. With K9o, if I'm called by anyone, I hate being in the hand, even if a king comes on the flop, since someone will have KT, KJ, KQ often enough.

mungpo 05-06-2005 10:25 PM

Re: Blind Stealing Poll
 
You are seeing monsters under your bed.

[ QUOTE ]
I voted raise for all except K9o. With K9o, if I'm called by anyone, I hate being in the hand, even if a king comes on the flop, since someone will have KT, KJ, KQ often enough.

[/ QUOTE ]
Have you played short handed at all?

party36master 05-06-2005 10:37 PM

Re: Blind Stealing Poll
 
[ QUOTE ]
You are seeing monsters under your bed.

[ QUOTE ]
I voted raise for all except K9o. With K9o, if I'm called by anyone, I hate being in the hand, even if a king comes on the flop, since someone will have KT, KJ, KQ often enough.

[/ QUOTE ]
Have you played short handed at all?

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I don't play 6 max much, if that's your question (I occassionally chase "buddies" at 5/10 6 max).
I've played enough shorthanded live at late hours.
I think shorthanded games play a little differently than blind steals/defenses in full games. Its a different mindset.

Sure, people will call w/J9, and Q9, or w/garbage.

Given the tight blind structure, I'm not super excited about being in there w/K9o when people defend. At a looser blind structure, I'd feel a little better.


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