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pfkaok 10-26-2005 03:39 AM

pbdrunks on pstars is a clown
 
well. i think he's a good player, and his status on the yearly TLB probably suggests that he is. but he is a tool. after being busted in the rebuy he was furiously telling me how stupid my play was, how it was "the gayest play ever",ect...

anyways. i thought it was a pretty easy play, b/c i thought BB would not push without something really good, then i could fold and be fine. and dude, if you're a 2+2er, i do'nt care how good you play, GROW up, b/c you are VERY CLASSLESS

here it is:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t16000 (8 handed) converter

Button (t207548)
Hero (t311630)
BB (t432682)
UTG (t444452)
UTG+1 (t80259)
MP1 (t266068)
MP2 (t434896)
CO (t40609)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t39809</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t96000</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t140609) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t140609) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t140609) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t140609

10-26-2005 03:42 AM

Re: pbdrunks on pstars is a clown
 
easy play, retarded beration. nh.

Seether 10-26-2005 03:45 AM

Re: pbdrunks on pstars is a clown
 
You called off 13% of your stack with q5o.... getting nowhere near the odds to call?

cferejohn 10-26-2005 03:48 AM

Re: pbdrunks on pstars is a clown
 
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You called off 13% of your stack with q5o.... getting nowhere near the odds to call?

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How can you say he's getting nowhere near the odds to call without first putting villan on a range of hands?

pfkaok 10-26-2005 03:53 AM

Re: pbdrunks on pstars is a clown
 
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How can you say he's getting nowhere near the odds to call without first putting villan on a range of hands?

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yeah. range... ie ATC.

Exitonly 10-26-2005 04:09 AM

Re: pbdrunks on pstars is a clown
 
i'm not too crazy about this..you're risking 33% of your stack to get yourself a coinflip.

I think it depends on how often BB plays back at you.
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CardSharpCook 10-26-2005 04:15 AM

Re: pbdrunks on pstars is a clown
 
hero played this well. Pbdrunks is a very childish player. Generally, he lacks good manners. Specifically, he is prone to childish outbursts like this.

As for the hand. Hero is getting about 2.3:1 on his play (provided he can fold out BB). Villian's range is wide as he has only 2.5BBs.

pfkaok 10-26-2005 04:20 AM

Re: pbdrunks on pstars is a clown
 
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i'm not too crazy about this..you're risking 33% of your stack to get yourself a coinflip.

I think it depends on how often BB plays back at you.
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well. i felt BB might come over top with weaker hands if i call. but i didn't think he's likely push me in with garbage after i raised... and i think he might have made somewhat loosish calls if i pushed since it looked so suspicious, which is why i raised. i'm not really sure if the raise was good amount, but i'm almost certain that reraising is the correct play here.

Exitonly 10-26-2005 04:22 AM

Re: pbdrunks on pstars is a clown
 
Yea i've gotta think that's +cEV.. just looks so wrong.

so are you raising any 2 cards here to isolate?

CardSharpCook 10-26-2005 04:28 AM

Re: pbdrunks on pstars is a clown
 
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Yea i've gotta think that's +cEV.. just looks so wrong.

so are you raising any 2 cards here to isolate?

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No. Q5 is very likely to have villian "over/undered" or "btwnn the sheets" That is, a lot of villians hands will be A6/K7/K2/67/J9/etc etc. Villian's range is very wide and Qx has high card value. I wouldn't do this with a bottom 50% hand, but my range for this play is pretty wide.


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