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shant 11-02-2005 04:10 AM

Fold preflop
 
BB is a TAG with a 2+2ish screenname. UTG is donkish with a donkish screenname. Everyone else is unknown.

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is CO with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $15.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero (poster) calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (20 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, MP1 folds, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (18.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

River: (27.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 29.50 BB

Edited to add reads.

toss 11-02-2005 04:18 AM

Re: Fold preflop
 
BB smells so much like a higher flush. Can't fold the turn with two outs. I'd highly consider folding the river though.

Klepton 11-02-2005 04:18 AM

Re: Fold preflop
 
this hand is awesome, i think you did everything right.

if it was me i probably would have capped the turn, knowing that UTG didn't have the flush and BB might have the flush, if not A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J.

11-02-2005 04:47 AM

Re: Fold preflop
 
I was going to say this: Cap turn -- cry call river cause pot is huge. Maybe you got lucky and he has a set...

But, I was in a similar hand live this past weekend where it was 5-way on the turn on a similar board like this. I turned a T high flush and bet out in EP, there was a raise a cold call and then the button 3-bet. What kind of hand on a non-paired board 3-bets in a huge pot like this into such a large field that's already shown strength? I think something that beats us. A small flush or set probably cold calls. I called down too and got shown the A high flush.

I think calling down isn't bad -- although I do think we're behind.

baronzeus 11-02-2005 04:53 AM

Re: Fold preflop
 
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this hand is awesome, i think you did everything right.

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bakku 11-02-2005 05:25 AM

Re: Fold preflop
 
[ QUOTE ]
BB is a TAG with a 2+2ish screenname. UTG is donkish with a donkish screenname. Everyone else is unknown.

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is CO with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $15.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero (poster) calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (20 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, MP1 folds, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (18.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

River: (27.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 29.50 BB

Edited to add reads.

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wow i am crying so hard when i call this river

Nick C 11-02-2005 05:33 AM

Re: Fold preflop
 
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BB smells so much like a higher flush. Can't fold the turn with two outs.

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I'd quote Toss's third sentence too, but I know I wouldn't really be able to throw away my flush heads-up on the river, closing the action, getting 28:1. I'd tell myself that, despite his screen name, BB might have played top set stupidly. And then I'd call, fully expecting to see the nut flush.

toss 11-02-2005 05:52 AM

Re: Fold preflop
 
Hahah I wouldn't be able to fold too. What I say and how I play are two different things. I'll tell myself to fold, but then I'll look at the $900 in the middle and say [censored] it I can't fold this.

So did you win a big fat sexy pot Shant?

11-02-2005 06:09 AM

Re: Fold preflop
 
Fold preflop!!!

You all think that there is no problem in the fact that he was in this game!?!

toss 11-02-2005 06:12 AM

Re: Fold preflop
 
Hero is often getting 6:1 or better PF with a sooted connector in position. Its not a bad call.


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