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Burdzthewurd 07-19-2005 04:04 AM

PLO SNG - OESD, good enough for a stand?
 
Is making a stand here ok? Button is very aggressive, raises often on the button, everytime in the SB.

Pot-limit Omaha Hi $10+$1 SNG (real money)



Seat 2: BB ($5,095 in chips)
Seat 7: Button ($8,375 in chips)
Seat 8: Hero [J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] ($1,530 in chips)

PRE-FLOP
Button raises to $400, Hero calls $325, BB folds.

FLOP [board cards 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
Hero checks, Button bets $475, Hero raises to $1,130 and is all-in, Button calls.

TURN [A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]


RIVER [K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]


SHOWDOWN
Button shows [ A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
Hero shows [ J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
Hero wins $3,210

flawless_victory 07-19-2005 06:15 AM

Re: PLO SNG - OESD, good enough for a stand?
 
not exactly the most +++EV situation in the history, but with that flop you aint folding... your pair is also def relevant here.

willmay3 07-19-2005 07:17 AM

Re: PLO SNG - OESD, good enough for a stand?
 
I agree with Flawless Victory, you can't routinely fold this type of hand in an SNG as the blinds will destroy you. The flop has hit your hand, and you've got the villian WAY overplaying his Aces. I'm not so sure about the check raise all in, but hey, it worked [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

With Regards,

Will

Tilt 07-19-2005 09:56 AM

Re: PLO SNG - OESD, good enough for a stand?
 
I think getting all-in postflop is fine. I hate the preflop call. I am either pushing or folding here before I invest 1/5 my stack on a call with this hand. A small double pair or small wrap I might call and look at a flop. But with this hand I would make a decision as to whether the raise was made by a real hand and push or fold accordingly.

pzhon 07-19-2005 10:41 AM

Re: PLO SNG - OESD, good enough for a stand?
 
I don't agree that the villain is overplaying his aces. I think the villain's play is fine. I'd bet a little bit more, but it is easy to call the flop check-raise.

You have to distinguish playing shorthanded with short stacks with playing in a full game with deep stacks. The probability that one or two people outflop AA just isn't so high, and AA has a ton of outs against 2-pair.

Burdzthewurd 07-19-2005 11:53 AM

Re: PLO SNG - OESD, good enough for a stand?
 
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1092694
pokenum -o js 9s qh 7d - ac as 6c td -- 9d 5h th
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing 9d Th 5h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js 9s 7d Qh 509 62.07 311 37.93 0 0.00 0.621
As Ac 6c Td 311 37.93 509 62.07 0 0.00 0.379


Turns out I'm almost more than a 3-2 favorite on the flop, que pasa?

pzhon 07-19-2005 03:55 PM

Re: PLO SNG - OESD, good enough for a stand?
 
[ QUOTE ]

Turns out I'm almost more than a 3-2 favorite on the flop, que pasa?

[/ QUOTE ]
You had more than an OESD. You had a pair, too, which means you had a draw to two pair and trips. You had 19 outs: any 7, 8, 9, J, Q, or K, though many of these would leave your opponent redraws.


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