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Wisch 12-31-2005 01:20 AM

PStars 180..2 Overs/Flush Draw/Gut Shot..facing Bet/Raise on flop
 
Too many things going on to have good reads yet. Curious about my preflop raise and then what to do on this flop. I hate to lay this down...but it is just a draw at this point. Any comments appreciated. If this is simple...just say so.

Thanks


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG (t2520)
UTG+1 (t1480)
MP1 (t2450)
MP2 (t1320)
CO (t2710)
Hero (t1680)
SB (t3205)
BB (t1825)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t30, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t30, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t120</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t90, UTG+1 calls t90, CO calls t90.

Flop: (t495) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t210</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t450</font>, HERO????

stevepa 12-31-2005 01:31 AM

Re: PStars 180..2 Overs/Flush Draw/Gut Shot..facing raise/rereaise on
 
I push.

Steve

Jurollo 12-31-2005 01:35 AM

Re: PStars 180..2 Overs/Flush Draw/Gut Shot..facing raise/rereaise on
 
Push.
~Justin

ZBTHorton 12-31-2005 01:40 AM

Re: PStars 180..2 Overs/Flush Draw/Gut Shot..facing raise/rereaise on
 
[ QUOTE ]
Push.
~Brian

[/ QUOTE ]

Lloyd 12-31-2005 01:44 AM

Re: PStars 180..2 Overs/Flush Draw/Gut Shot..facing raise/rereaise on
 
You're playing for your stack on the flop. So it's either push or fold. If you push, you're risking t1560 to win t2190 so you're getting 1.4 to 1 odds. You need to have 40% equity for it to be a neutral decision. You're a 60/40 favorite against an overplayed AT. You're a 2 to 1 dog against a set even with 12 outs because of the full house redraw. I think there's a greater liklihood that you're up against a set than AT. And giving AT some possibility along with 88/77 and you're a 1.5 to 1 dog. Given that you're not even drawing to the nut flush and I don't think you're getting good enough odds.

Pre-flop, the raise is okay. Understand that it has more to do with driving out (hopefully) a couple of opponents and getting the betting impetus post flop then winning pre-flop. You're likely to get called and you're likely to miss the flop. So you have to plan on making a continuation bet on the flop to make raising pre-flop worthwhile.


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