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Bollinger didn't start but looks like he will next week that's why he's in there.

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Joey Harrington - and I'm debating on whether or not it's close.

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Whenever I see him play it seems as if he would like to be anywhere else besides the field.

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Joey Harrington - and I'm debating on whether or not it's close.

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But i'm from Detroit, so I might be a bit biased.

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Whenever I see him play it seems as if he would like to be anywhere else besides the field.

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I heard that in college his teammates nicknamed him "princess."

I hate him.

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Since I can't vote for Favre, I guess I'll say Harrington.

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Harrington is not in the same league of bad-ness as Chris Simms right now. Not even close.

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Joey Harrington - and I'm debating on whether or not it's close.

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He was the best player on the vikings today.

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Joey Harrington - and I'm debating on whether or not it's close.

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I opened this thread to specifically vote for him.

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Joey Harrington - and I'm debating on whether or not it's close.

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I opened this thread to specifically vote for him.

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i thought we already established that harrington replaced batch, thus, batch is the worst?

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Joey Harrington - and I'm debating on whether or not it's close.

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I opened this thread to specifically vote for him.

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Me too. Ye gods, he is awful. They actually have real talent on that team, he should be atleast reasonable.

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Aaron Brooks

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Harrington is not in the same league of bad-ness as Chris Simms right now. Not even close.

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Harrington is not in the same league of bad-ness as Chris Simms right now. Not even close.

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Are we taking into account that Harrington has been starting for years, and Simms has not?

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Im writing in David freaking Carr.

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Im writing in David freaking Carr.

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Have you seen how bad Houston's offensive line is?

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I am surprised that Pickett and Simms didn't get almost all the votes. Sure Harrington has been bad, but have you even seen these other 2 under center? It's truly disgusting.
-James

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Joey Harrington - and it's not even close.

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FYP.

It kinda makes me yearn for the old days of the Mike McMahon era...

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Chris Simms was my vote. He has the physical ability but mentally he is not there at all. The decisions and throws he makes are just awful. The only reason he has any stats is because of a couple of really long TDs, but those are far outweighed by throwing INTs for TDs, fumbling in key situations, throwing ahead of or behind open receivers, taking sacks when he could throw it away. It was so bad in the 4th quarter against Carolina, he was just sitting on the bench solo with no teammates talking to him, finally Gruden came by trying to cheer him up. If you're going to be the leader of the team, your teammates have to have some respect for you.

All of this could be said for Joey Harrington too probably.

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any QB for the 49ers should win this

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Comparing guys who start to guys who don't start to guys who just starting starting is dumb.

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Im writing in David freaking Carr.

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Have you seen how bad Houston's offensive line is?

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yes I have, and I've also seen repeartedly the fact that he doens't understand when to get rid of the ball. He just doesnt execute right. FWIW, we're prolly getting rid of Capers and getting the UT QB, so I will just wait.

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Joey Harrington. Chris Simms is a backup so I don't think he should count for this even though he is starting at the moment.

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Im writing in David freaking Carr.

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Have you seen how bad Houston's offensive line is?

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yes I have, and I've also seen repeartedly the fact that he doens't understand when to get rid of the ball. He just doesnt execute right. FWIW, we're prolly getting rid of Capers and getting the UT QB, so I will just wait.

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Good God. Have you seen Vince Young try to throw? He has no arm.

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Whoever the three people are that voted for me can go [censored] themselves.

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honestly, what houston needs more than anything is a qb who can march down the firld. regardless of his arm strength, he can and will break tackles, and has more ability to get rid of the ball when it's called for.

all in all, a huuuuuuge step up from carr.

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honestly, what houston needs more than anything is a qb who can march down the firld. regardless of his arm strength, he can and will break tackles, and has more ability to get rid of the ball when it's called for.

all in all, a huuuuuuge step up from carr.

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Yeah, I think rather than put together an offensive line they should spend (more) huge money on a qb that likes to run around. Its pretty clear that he'll be able to avoid hits and play every game and have a long and productive career. Throwing the ball is overrated. This seems like a really, really good plan.

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I agree, David Carr is just awful. He just doesn't seem to have the right kind of instincts. I vote they fire Dom and Casserly. And draft Vince Young or Marcus Vick.

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honestly, what houston needs more than anything is a qb who can march down the firld. regardless of his arm strength, he can and will break tackles, and has more ability to get rid of the ball when it's called for.

all in all, a huuuuuuge step up from carr.

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Yeah, I think rather than put together an offensive line they should spend (more) huge money on a qb that likes to run around. Its pretty clear that he'll be able to avoid hits and play every game and have a long and productive career. Throwing the ball is overrated. This seems like a really, really good plan.

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why dont you actually take time to erad my post. A) I said that we need someone who can march down the field. If you think that I literally meant running, you're a moron. He can throw short passes very well.
B) I qualified my statement by saying that I know he's not a good arm, but he's still a step up from carr.

thanks for stopping by.

steel, I agree.

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I did erad your post. I assumed when you said "marching down the field" you meant run. Sorry if I misinterpreted it...

A few things:

1. I don't care who your qb is, if he gets hit ten times a game he won't play every week and he won't play many years.

2. If by "marching down the field" you're saying you want a qb who can lead the offense on drives, well, umm, yeah, I'm fairly sure everyone will agree with you. You don't gain points for originality....

3. To say a QB who has never played in the NFL is a step up from one who has is really, really stupid.

Sorry if I misinterpreted your original point.

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yeah, thats cool, didnt mean to jump in your [censored]. been a bad day.

You're absolutely right about college qb's vs. NFL qb's. However, I will defend my position only by saying that it has been wholly depressnig to be a houston citizen under Carr, and I would be lying if I didnt say I'd take damn near anyone, just for a change of pace.

I also have to wonder, does any of the blame in houston come down to the line coach? if the guys are in the NFL, I would think they have the raw physical ability to get it done, then it comes down to coaching right?

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Yeah, I'm a Jets fan. I have been witness to awful Quarterbacking for years, I understand.

I think, in general, talent is more important than coaching when it comes to the O line. The only O line coach I know to seemingly always get it done is Alex Gibbs, and most credit that to his devotion to the chop block. I'm sure there are a bunch of o line coaches who can turn a good group of blockers into a great line. But I'm not sure the difference is all that great when dealing with mediocre players.

The thing about Houston is that this line has been horrible for years now. The blame for all of this should go straight to the FO. Yes, they drafted Boselli with their first pick and he never played. But that was, what?, like 3 years ago?

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amen. the FO sucks... it all started with calling them "The Texans".

You make a good point about O Line coaches. Im wondering now how this problem could be alleviated? Im sure that we could trade for some aging linemen, or gamble on some picks, but we can't give up the scant talent taht we have to pick up proven linemen, and no one would want ours.

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coaching scheme matters a ton. imo, the real key is getting that solid LT then 4 maulers for the rest of the line. Houston should love whatever franchise lt they get this draft.

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coaching scheme matters a ton. imo, the real key is getting that solid LT then 4 maulers for the rest of the line. Houston should love whatever franchise lt they get this draft.

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this would be the obvious move, but methinks you're giving too much credit to the FO.

we shall see

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One thing you have to remember is that part of an O-Line's success or failure is the ability to pick up the blitz. Generally, the responsability of recognizing the blitz falls on the Center and QB.

Since I don't watch Texans' games I have no idea how good Carr is at blitz recognition, but I'm assuming he isn't very good.

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coaching scheme matters a ton. imo, the real key is getting that solid LT then 4 maulers for the rest of the line. Houston should love whatever franchise lt they get this draft.

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Fair enough. Like I said, I don't really know much about o lines. FWIW, I think this is their man. He's got a knee thing though.

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Cody Pickett just sewed this one up with his stellar 1-13, 1INT performance today.

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Yupz.