J9s and weird results
 

I have no idea how PF happened. Limper had a VPIP over 40, hence the raise, and the other villian was LA-P (38/15/.5)

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, SB calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (17 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (14.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

River: (18.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 20.50 BB

Re: J9s and weird results
 

3bet turn, lead river...

i think you need to be puttin in more bets here...i think a flopped set is more likely than another flopped flush, especially since the AKJ [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] are all out...

Re: J9s and weird results
 

I think I'd three bet the turn and call it down if capped. I really wouldn't be surprised if the button turned up a set here, and since the board didn't pair, I think we are good here enough to three bet the turn

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Is that a standard PF raise?

Anyway, I'd 3-bet the turn as well. Call down a cap.

Re: J9s and weird results
 

I raised to isolate LP limper. It didn't work...

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I raised to isolate LP limper. It didn't work...

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How high is your PFR? Minds 10 and I don't even make that play with JTs thou I probably should.

Re: J9s and weird results
 

~9

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i raise J9s ther and Q8s, maybe down to K6/7s

edit - depending on blinds

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i raise J9s ther and Q8s, maybe down to K6/7s

edit - depending on blinds

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If you don't have steal stats on the blinds, how tight VPiPwise do they have to be for you to start getting real aggressive with your isolations and steals?

Re: J9s and weird results
 

i would become much tighter isolating if the big blind is about VPIP 20%, many more hands become playable for a raise if there is a limper...