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Str8Fish 12-04-2005 12:05 PM

TT in an uncomfortable situation
 
Cryptologic 1.00/2.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 caps</font>, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (17.00 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: (8.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, CO folds, Button folds, Hero calls.

River: (12.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.50 BB.

- I've seen MP3 for 100 hands so far. His VP$IP is 19.8, his PF Raise is 9.9%, so his Raising Frequency is 50%. I don't have a read on the other two.

jrz1972 12-04-2005 12:15 PM

Re: TT in an uncomfortable situation
 
MP3's flop check = a set of kings.

Edit: There's an outside chance that he has only pocket aces. Either way, he told you he has you crushed.

12-04-2005 12:16 PM

Re: TT in an uncomfortable situation
 
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MP3's flop check = a set of kings.

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skillz....

wake me up inside

benkath1 12-04-2005 12:25 PM

Re: TT in an uncomfortable situation
 
[ QUOTE ]
MP3's flop check = a set of kings.

Edit: There's an outside chance that he has only pocket aces. Either way, he told you he has you crushed.

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Especially here: Cryptologic 1.00/2.00 Hold'em

Without a solid LRR read, I drop most marginal holdings to these morans.

12-04-2005 12:54 PM

Re: TT in an uncomfortable situation
 
Grunch:

Love the post as I find myself here frequently. I usually don't 3 bet with TT OOP. Calling I believe is a better line here, esp. since I will get to bet the flop first.

I bet this flop most of the time. If villian raises, I'd rather know it here rather than the higher street. Also, it looks like the villian was going to wait for your bet regardless. I really don't think the 6 helped him.

Given his stats, I'd seriously consider folding to the turn raise. Given how it played, I'm probably folding to his bet. AA-JJ or AK is just too likely here given the read &amp; his stats.

12-04-2005 12:57 PM

Re: TT in an uncomfortable situation
 
Grunch.

Bet the flop. If MP3 raise you, you are beat and can throw the hand away feeling good about yourself. Will only cost you 0,5BB to find out instead of 3BB following your line here and I can't really see you winning this hand.

Str8Fish 12-04-2005 01:18 PM

Re: TT in an uncomfortable situation
 
thank you. Next time I bet the flop to get a sense of what is out there.

12-04-2005 02:31 PM

Re: TT in an uncomfortable situation
 
Grunch:

MP may as well send you a telegram stating he has a set of kings. I don't usually lead this flop, and i certainly dont think about betting the turn. The way it got checked around, C/f the turn, you are drawing dead.

12-04-2005 02:34 PM

Re: TT in an uncomfortable situation
 
MP3s action confuses me. His PFR stats indicate he's willing to be aggressive with big hands, yet he open limps and then caps it [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]. Is he trying to be tricky with AA or KK, afraid that if he raises he'll get no action? I can't see him capping preflop without a big pair or AK. On the flop is he slow playing a set of kings?

I would have played it the same way you did. Even though I suspect you're behind on the turn, the pot is pretty big.

Edit: After reading other respones two things come to mind. 3-betting TT oop is probably not a good idea. Also, it appears everyone seems to agree that MP3 is slowplaying a set of kings. I have real hard time not donking the turn as OP did. When that flop was checked it was like waving a red flag in front of a bull. I will usually bite and bet the turn. Spewing? And I guess we need to fold to the c/r even though the pot is pretty big?

shant 12-04-2005 03:28 PM

Re: TT in an uncomfortable situation
 
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Grunch.

Bet the flop. If MP3 raise you, you are beat and can throw the hand away feeling good about yourself. Will only cost you 0,5BB to find out instead of 3BB following your line here and I can't really see you winning this hand.

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I don't think you're going to get much information by betting the flop. What if MP3 is slowplaying like everyone thinks because he is so awesome and flopped a set of Kings? He's probably going to just call. What do you do on the turn if you get called on the flop?


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