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vetman81 10-26-2005 11:59 PM

20 table SNG TT vs. all in and call
 
I was in first place at the time with about 50 people left. I had been pretty aggressive but still fairly tight. What is my play here? Do I just call, fold, or should I put in a reraise to try and get it HU with a lot of dead money in the pot? Thanks.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB (t11494)
BB (t6442)
<font color="#C00000">UTG (t1797)</font>
UTG+1 (t3445)
MP1 (t2855)
MP2 (t12060)
Hero (t15241)
Button (t10254)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t1772</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls t1772, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???

sketchy1 10-27-2005 12:02 AM

Re: 20 table SNG TT vs. all in and call
 
edit: sorry, didn't read it close enough. i was trying to respond while playing kings against bubble boy.

0evg0 10-27-2005 12:06 AM

Re: 20 table SNG TT vs. all in and call
 
I think I'm reraising this to 6k. Trying to establish a range for MP2 and think AJ/AQ/77/88/99 is reasonable.

Actually, given that range, if you come up with that same read and are confident in it, maybe taking a flop would be best. Could potentially bust him on a ragged 226 flop.

I don't get the previous post. Was this him just smooth-calling AA and you indeed got trapped yourself on a ragged 226 flop?

Whatever, I change my mind and just call.

A_Junglen 10-27-2005 12:10 AM

Re: 20 table SNG TT vs. all in and call
 
I move in.

betgo 10-27-2005 12:20 AM

Re: 20 table SNG TT vs. all in and call
 
Fold. You may have the best hand, but why get involved.

Nepa 10-27-2005 12:23 AM

Re: 20 table SNG TT vs. all in and call
 
I don't see how calling would be the worse thing to do in this position. My reason is if you push you are only most likely to get called by a better hand and folded by worse hand. ie. AA KK QQ JJ other hand could be AK AQ KQ and maybe AJ. Fear and picture card on the flop or any very aggressive play after the flop.

billyjex 10-27-2005 12:49 AM

Re: 20 table SNG TT vs. all in and call
 
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Fold. You may have the best hand, but why get involved.

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uhh, because it is 10% of our stack, we probably have the best hand, and we have position? folding is weak tight.

I most likely call here, because we have position.

LethalRose 10-27-2005 01:23 AM

Re: 20 table SNG TT vs. all in and call
 
UTG's range here is very wide which you're a fav against. if MP2 is a loose player and doesnt mind to pay a little to see a flop I push. If however he is a very tight player and has AK or a big hand in this situation he is probably asking for a push. mp2 is probably calling with a small PP or something like AJs so I like a push. I dont like calling in this situation as 45% of the time an overcard will flop and you'll have difficulty winning a large pot unless MP will bluff with a PP. Also Mp2 will most likely only put more chips in the pot if he hits his set. If you can rely put Mp2 on a small PP here I dont have a problem with calling and calling him down, but you need a good read for it.

the fact is, a thinking player her would reraise all in to isolate and keep it heads up since he is a fav with AJs versus shortie's range. The cold call is either weakness or big strength, only you can decide which it is.

betgo 10-27-2005 01:31 AM

Re: 20 table SNG TT vs. all in and call
 
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Fold. You may have the best hand, but why get involved.


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uhh, because it is 10% of our stack, we probably have the best hand, and we have position? folding is weak tight.

I most likely call here, because we have position.

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We have an UTG push for 9XBB. That is probably 22-KK or AQ-AK. Then we have an early position call, which is probably 88-AA or AQ-AK. TT may be the best hand, but so what? What do we have to gain? Hero has position, but TT may not be that easy to play with one player allin.

vetman81 10-27-2005 05:04 PM

Re: 20 table SNG TT vs. all in and call
 
bump one time


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