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bluechip270 07-17-2005 04:58 PM

Cash Game Theory
 
I have been playing the NL 600min buy in game with blinds 10-20 at Commerce Casino for the last 3 months. And I have noticed that I always come up a lot in the beginning then it slowly goes down. So I came up with this strategy, but I am not sure if it is a good/correct one to have. I sit down for 4grand, and once I come up 1grand, I leave the tbl and go home.

Tell me what you guys think,
Thanks

threeonefour 07-17-2005 05:00 PM

Re: Cash Game Theory
 
your system is based on a fallacy... ill let others elaborate


EDIT: but seriously, you should be willing to play as long as you have a positive expectation at the table. Quit when its time to go home or when you no longer have a postive expectation at that table at that time

PapiChulo503 07-17-2005 10:32 PM

Re: Cash Game Theory
 
What are you doing in the beginning that your doing different in the end?

Has the texture of the game changed?
A couple different players sat down?
Are you still making correct decisions?(is getting tired affecting your play)


I was having the same problem for a while and these were a few of the questions that I asked myself. The thing I found about my game was that as soon as I doubled my buy in I began to play differently. My starting hand range would increase and I was making too many decisions where I was gambling. It was all psychological for me.

PokrLikeItsProse 07-17-2005 11:15 PM

Re: Cash Game Theory
 
Maybe your opponents play a bit "weak-tight" against you to gather information cheaply and you win a few pots. Then, once they figure you out, your stack shrivels up.

07-18-2005 02:47 AM

Re: Cash Game Theory
 
it's so confusing to me man

sully4321 07-18-2005 02:50 AM

Re: Cash Game Theory
 
if it keeps working, and you're making a grand nearly everytime you play short, and making less than a grand when you play long... [censored] it man.
if it's not broke, don't fix it. making more money in less time sounds good to me.

Alex/Mugaaz 07-18-2005 03:05 AM

Re: Cash Game Theory
 
It's horrible. Play by a clock. You're either beating this game or you're not. Since you are asking this question I would say there is an 85% chance you are not (I'm being honest and generous here). If you're a winning player then the only decision is how long to play. If you're a losing player your decision is whether to buy a book or join GA.

A_C_Slater 07-18-2005 05:22 AM

Re: Cash Game Theory
 
What makes you think you'll be able to win a grand everytime?

tek 07-18-2005 11:10 AM

Re: Cash Game Theory
 
[ QUOTE ]
EDIT: but seriously, you should be willing to play as long as you have a positive expectation at the table. Quit when its time to go home or when you no longer have a postive expectation at that table at that time

[/ QUOTE ]

I think the boiler plate advice about continuing to play a long session is dribble.

Whether you're still awake, or playing well or whatever doesn't matter. After a certain point you need to protect your profits. The cards won't keep hitting you, the bad players at the table will leave, etc.

With enough experience, we can tell when we've hit the wall as far as pushing for more profit. In the stock market, the term would be momentum. The momentum of your game decreases.

You could still have a positive expectation as far as playing the players at the table, but there is still a gut feeling that develops that says 'time to go'.

Leaving the table with a rack or more of profit is always looked at with jealousy. Nobody thinks to themselves "Gee, that guy should have stayed because he had positive expectation." Instead, the thought is "I wish that was me".

Dan Mezick 07-18-2005 11:27 AM

Re: Cash Game Theory
 
Here:

[ QUOTE ]
I have been playing the NL 600min buy in game with blinds 10-20 at Commerce Casino for the last 3 months.

[/ QUOTE ]

...you mention you play but nothing about the results long-term, if you can call 3 months long-term.

Conventional wisdom says it's dumb to have a "stop win" type of rule if you are beating the game.

But ... maybe your individual temperament is driving the results.

If this is the case, it's likely the limit you set for winning is in sync with your temperament, ability, risk tolerance etc.

Not everyone that can beat a game can beat it for 6,8,10 hours. Perhaps your ideal period of play is the first 1-2 hours.

Try some experimentation. To test if this is about you (and not about them READING you) after a few hours of play, consider walking away for 2 hours and coming back "fresh" after a meal or some kind of break.

Say the same players are still there.

If it has something to do with the other players reading you , likely the results will be bad.

But if it is about you and your temperament etc, the results might look good. Then you can repeat that pattern to determine what makes the good pattern go.


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