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jrbick 12-24-2005 03:18 AM

Thick Skin 101 - Review of old Party name appreciated
 
Not sure how well receieved these posts have been in the past, but if you come accross my old name while reviewing old hands or feel like taking the time to look at stats, I'd really appreciate the help.

2 things I've already discovered and began work on:

1. Not enough blind steal + defense

2. Too aggressive on the flop. Finding spots to relax on the flop and either a.) call down more, b.) c/r or raise the turn more or c.) fold.

#1 was more of a problem at 5/10 than it was at 3/6, but anyway. If you find something more then that's awesome.

Totally appreciate the help guys.

Name again was "Wicked_Bad" 5/10 and 3/6 but more 3/6 than 5/10.

imported_leader 12-24-2005 05:05 AM

Re: Thick Skin 101 - Review of old Party name appreciated
 
I probably would have popped you on the river here.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.16 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.16 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 8.16 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Tc As (two pair, eights and twos).
Hero has 9c Ks (two pair, nines and eights).
Outcome: Hero wins 8.16 BB. </font>

You're in BB
MP is loose/passive from the stats I have. Though he's aggro here.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (2.33 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (2.16 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (4.16 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 6.16 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 8d 9s (two pair, tens and nines).
MP has 8h 6h (flush, king high).
Outcome: MP wins 6.16 BB. </font>

Why didn't you bet the flop?

You're in the BB against the same guy. I don't now why you're playing him like this.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (2.33 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (2.16 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (4.16 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 4.16 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 3c 9d (one pair, nines).
CO has 9c Tc (two pair, tens and nines).
Outcome: CO wins 4.16 BB. </font>

jba 12-24-2005 06:12 AM

Re: Thick Skin 101 - Review of old Party name appreciated
 
leader hand 1 is confusing me a bit, you are hero right? why didn't you raise the flop or at least the turn?

oops I hijacked

jrbick 12-24-2005 12:43 PM

Re: Thick Skin 101 - Review of old Party name appreciated
 
W/o a read on villain it's tough to say what I was thinking. Raising the turn looks to be about right.

The other two hands are problems. I noticed myself doing the same thing last night w/ the same scenarios (facing limper in the BB HU... not often but occasionally happens).

Thanks for taking the time leader.

EDIT: Hand 3 makes a little more sense. It looks like I was planning to bet the river. Didn't pop the turn cuz I didn't want him to fold (guessing w/o knowing who villain actually is, but I can see myself playing it this way) and planned on betting the River which got a bit ugly and I abandoned ship planning to check/call at least. Looking at it now it seems silly to not bet the river.

EvanJC 12-24-2005 01:21 PM

Re: Thick Skin 101 - Review of old Party name appreciated
 
in my db your vpip utg and utg+1 is only around 10%. looks like you could play a few more hands up front

jrbick 12-24-2005 01:45 PM

Re: Thick Skin 101 - Review of old Party name appreciated
 
How many hands is that from? This month alone (~26k) I'm 19 UTG and 14.5 from MP.

Sample of 85.6k shows 20 UTG and 15 MP. Is this normal from MP? PFR numbers per position are 19 and 14.

I don't like limping but should I add some limping hands to UTG possibly? Rarely have I ever observed it to be ideal to limp anything since most flops are 3-4 handed on avg., but I very well could be missing something strategy-wise. Most pots are raised as well.

Thoughts?

jba 12-24-2005 01:47 PM

Re: Thick Skin 101 - Review of old Party name appreciated
 
uhhh is that backwards?

jrbick 12-24-2005 02:02 PM

Re: Thick Skin 101 - Review of old Party name appreciated
 
[ QUOTE ]
uhhh is that backwards?

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which part?

jba 12-24-2005 02:09 PM

Re: Thick Skin 101 - Review of old Party name appreciated
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
uhhh is that backwards?

[/ QUOTE ]

which part?

[/ QUOTE ]

"20 UTG and 15 MP. Is this normal from MP? PFR numbers per position are 19 and 14. "

i mean it's gotta be right?

jrbick 12-24-2005 02:16 PM

Re: Thick Skin 101 - Review of old Party name appreciated
 
Oh... yeah, my bad. those numbers are for MP and CO. Sorry.

UTG = 13.63/12.32

MP = 15.18/14.06


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