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snowbank 12-26-2005 03:34 AM

$200NL- JQo, flop top pair, villian bets out pot
 
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Me_Schleprok ( $590.05)
Seat 2: castawaydk ( $184.40)
Seat 3: HERO ( $194)
Seat 4: Gmblstn ( $92)
Seat 5: HiPeD ( $192.30)
Seat 6: knalltorsk ( $51)
castawaydk posts small blind (1)
HERO posts big blind (2)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Jh, Qc ]
Gmblstn folds.
HiPeD folds.
knalltorsk folds.
castawaydk calls (1)
HERO raises (5) to 7
castawaydk calls (5)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7h, Qs, 4s ]
castawaydk bets (14)
HERO calls (14)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ts ]
castawaydk bets (40)
HERO folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: $80 | Rake: $2
Board: [ 7h Qs 4s Ts ]
castawaydk balance $203.40, bet $61, collected $80, net +$19
HERO balance $173, lost $21 (folded)
Gmblstn balance $92, didn't bet (folded)
HiPeD balance $192.30, didn't bet (folded)
knalltorsk balance $1, didn't bet (folded)

Standard???

Does anyone raise the flop?


Also, if anyone knows how to get hands e-mail to you from Party converted on the converter please lemme know, cause copy and pasting everything is crappy. Thanks.

Fallen Hero 12-26-2005 03:36 AM

Re: $200NL- JQo, flop top pair, villian bets out pot
 
[ QUOTE ]
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Me_Schleprok ( $590.05)
Seat 2: castawaydk ( $184.40)
Seat 3: HERO ( $194)
Seat 4: Gmblstn ( $92)
Seat 5: HiPeD ( $192.30)
Seat 6: knalltorsk ( $51)
castawaydk posts small blind (1)
HERO posts big blind (2)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Jh, Qc ]
Gmblstn folds.
HiPeD folds.
knalltorsk folds.
castawaydk calls (1)
HERO raises (5) to 7
castawaydk calls (5)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7h, Qs, 4s ]
castawaydk bets (14)
HERO calls (14)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ts ]
castawaydk bets (40)
HERO folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: $80 | Rake: $2
Board: [ 7h Qs 4s Ts ]
castawaydk balance $203.40, bet $61, collected $80, net +$19
HERO balance $173, lost $21 (folded)
Gmblstn balance $92, didn't bet (folded)
HiPeD balance $192.30, didn't bet (folded)
knalltorsk balance $1, didn't bet (folded)

Standard???

Does anyone raise the flop?


Also, if anyone knows how to get hands e-mail to you from Party converted on the converter please lemme know, cause copy and pasting everything is crappy. Thanks.

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\o
<---- raises the flop

snowbank 12-26-2005 03:43 AM

Re: $200NL- JQo, flop top pair, villian bets out pot
 
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Fallen Hero 12-26-2005 03:45 AM

Re: $200NL- JQo, flop top pair, villian bets out pot
 
[ QUOTE ]
Does anyone raise the flop?

[/ QUOTE ]

I raise the flop

snowbank 12-26-2005 03:56 AM

Re: $200NL- JQo, flop top pair, villian bets out pot
 
I raise the flop

I'm an idiot, for some reason I thought you wrote I raise-pre-flop in your original response, that's why I didn't know what you meant.

What are you raising to? Whatare you doing on the turn? Isn't this a pot you don't want to build a large pot with because you don't have a huge kicker?

Fallen Hero 12-26-2005 04:03 AM

Re: $200NL- JQo, flop top pair, villian bets out pot
 
[ QUOTE ]
I raise the flop

I'm an idiot, for some reason I thought you wrote I raise-pre-flop in your original response, that's why I didn't know what you meant.

What are you raising to? Whatare you doing on the turn? Isn't this a pot you don't want to build a large pot with because you don't have a huge kicker?

[/ QUOTE ]

You raised pf so you can reraise here without giving away too much information. This is hu on a dry flop with only one broadway card, the sb betting into you can be any pair trying to figure out if he's hand is good, if you raise and he calls you can always check behind on the turn and keep the pot small without risking anything in terms of freecards.
If he has you beat raising the flop doesn't cost you much either since the bet you put in on the flop you save on the turn.

12-26-2005 05:18 AM

Re: $200NL- JQo, flop top pair, villian bets out pot
 
Looks like he either has 2 pair or a weaker Q... Whats your read?

snowbank 12-27-2005 02:18 PM

Re: $200NL- JQo, flop top pair, villian bets out pot
 
You raised pf so you can reraise here without giving away too much information. This is hu on a dry flop with only one broadway card, the sb betting into you can be any pair trying to figure out if he's hand is good, if you raise and he calls you can always check behind on the turn and keep the pot small without risking anything in terms of freecards.

How much are you raising the flop?

What's your move if he calls your raise and bets the turn?

Maulik 12-27-2005 02:35 PM

Re: $200NL- JQo, flop top pair, villian bets out pot
 
[ QUOTE ]


How much are you raising the flop?

What's your move if he calls your raise and bets the turn?

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3x if you're going to raise.

if he leads the turn, I fold.

I definately would just fold the lead on the flop. I think he flopped a set.

Fallen Hero 12-27-2005 03:16 PM

Re: $200NL- JQo, flop top pair, villian bets out pot
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]


How much are you raising the flop?

What's your move if he calls your raise and bets the turn?

[/ QUOTE ]

3x if you're going to raise.

if he leads the turn, I fold.



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agreed

[ QUOTE ]
I definately would just fold the lead on the flop. I think he flopped a set.

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wtf?

snowbank 12-27-2005 04:05 PM

Re: $200NL- JQo, flop top pair, villian bets out pot
 
3x if you're going to raise.

Would you raise, or are you just folding here?

TheWorstPlayer 12-27-2005 04:07 PM

Re: $200NL- JQo, flop top pair, villian bets out pot
 
This looks pretty good to me. Alternative is to raise the flop, but I think you do better by calling the flop and then raising a non-spade turn (I like a min-raise there actually) and then checking the river.

guns4show 12-27-2005 07:18 PM

Re: $200NL- JQo, flop top pair, villian bets out pot
 
Raise the flop to 35.

Gary Stevenson 12-29-2005 09:26 AM

Re: $200NL- JQo, flop top pair, villian bets out pot
 
i think you have to raise this flop to find out where you are early in the hand rather than just giving up if opponent is agressive, he limped pf...i doubt if he has a queen he has you outkicked. I raise the flop to 38 or somewhere around there/fold to 3bet and fold to almost all turn leads.

12-29-2005 09:31 AM

Re: $200NL- JQo, flop top pair, villian bets out pot
 
I'm raising this flop. make it around 35. If he calls, then you are probably beat. Fold to a serious lead on turn. If checked, check it again and see if you can get a cheap SD.


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