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djoyce003 12-29-2005 09:58 AM

QQ preflop decision against a perceived donkey
 
Alright, i've been running into a rash of these guys at the 25 nl tables. Their standard opening raise is 8-12x bb instead of 4x. Basically they are turning the table into the old 50bb tables instead of the 100bb tables. A raise to 2 or 3 does not necessarily mean better than average opening hands, it seems to generally mean worse. I don't have many hands at the table but villain has raised to 2 or 3 every single time he's raised. Thoughts?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

CO ($25.40)
Hero ($24.65)
SB ($43.52)
BB ($29.30)
UTG ($27.85)
MP ($22.46)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP folds, CO calls $23.40 (All-In), Hero calls $16.65 (All-In).

Flop: ($50.65) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Turn: ($50.65) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: ($50.65) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $50.65

12-29-2005 11:11 AM

Re: QQ preflop decision against a perceived donkey
 
I think its fine.

A lot of these maniacs will go allin with AJ -&gt; AK, 88-JJ which you have beat. Hell, I've seen some of these idiots re-raise me allin with 22.

No way you can fold that considering he has raised a whole bunch of pots in a row.

JustToast 12-29-2005 11:29 AM

Re: QQ preflop decision against a perceived donkey
 
I think his looseness dictates the play here rather than the size of his raises. Whats the stats?

12-29-2005 11:40 AM

Re: QQ preflop decision against a perceived donkey
 
I saw all in with 4 5o yesterday, I had AA thats why I got to see it.

djoyce003 12-29-2005 12:21 PM

Re: QQ preflop decision against a perceived donkey
 
he's around 40/30.

jsnipes28 12-29-2005 12:58 PM

Re: QQ preflop decision against a perceived donkey
 
Looks good. I don't think players here are folding AK, AQ, or 88+.
Edit: I also saw a preflop 3bet all-in w/ J8 yesterday at 100NL and the guy flopped a straight flush and was lauded for his brilliant play [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

poboy 12-29-2005 01:05 PM

Re: QQ preflop decision against a perceived donkey
 
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he's around 40/30.

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Does this hand really need discussion?

teamdonkey 12-29-2005 02:24 PM

Re: QQ preflop decision against a perceived donkey
 
i love these guys. Biggest pot i've ever won was from one of them, he somehow managed to get his 180BB stack in preflop with 44. Your queens are a monster here.

12-29-2005 05:36 PM

Re: QQ preflop decision against a perceived donkey
 
I don't play Party because it's too aggressive. Even idiots can be dealt AA or suck out against yours. Flame away.


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