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Slim Pickens 11-20-2005 09:14 PM

(55) So you\'ve decided to represent trips...
 
Party Poker $55 No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed)

MP3 (t1000)
CO (t990)
Button (t970)
SB (t985)
BB (t1000)
UTG (t985)
UTG+1 (t1045)
UTG+2 (t1000)
MP1 (t1025)
Hero (t1000)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t45</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls t35, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t105) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t95</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t190</font>, Hero calls t95.

Turn: (t485) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t200</font>, Hero ???

What range of hands do you put SB on and how often is he bluffing?

11-20-2005 09:22 PM

Re: (55) So you\'ve decided to represent trips...
 
raise 5x BB pf at least

you gotta protect KK from the donkies

durron597 11-20-2005 09:26 PM

Re: (55) So you\'ve decided to represent trips...
 
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you gotta protect KK from your own reverse implied odds

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microbet 11-20-2005 09:38 PM

Re: (55) So you\'ve decided to represent trips...
 
Anything is possible, but I think his turn bet is too weak to be trips that often. He didn't slowplay the flop after all.

I think I'm calling. There are some draws out there, so I'm not sure, but I think calling is good.

Paul Thomson 11-20-2005 09:57 PM

Re: (55) So you\'ve decided to represent trips...
 
I think microbet has it right. I'd call.

golfcchs 11-20-2005 11:24 PM

Re: (55) So you\'ve decided to represent trips...
 
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you gotta protect KK from your own reverse implied odds

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Very nice [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

wiggs73 11-20-2005 11:44 PM

Re: (55) So you\'ve decided to represent trips...
 
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I think I'm calling. There are some draws out there, so I'm not sure, but I think calling is good.

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What do you do if a 3rd flush / straight card comes on the river?

And also, how bad is pushing the turn? I'm guessing your calling for pot-control reasons incase villain does have trips and/or to induce a river bluff from a missed draw. But if villain is on a draw, would pushing the turn not be a better option?

ebaudry 11-21-2005 12:14 AM

Re: (55) So you\'ve decided to represent trips...
 
If we're assuming you have no read on the villain, then we don't know if he's playing solid poker or not. He has $55 is about all we know.

You preflop raise was smallish, some people protect their blinds with any 2, so we can't know too much about his pocket.

I'd assume he could have:

-any pair
-AK/AQ/AJ/A9/KQ clubs
-a T with a high card
-total bluff

i think a good player would get more money out the hand with a T-something hand. But since we don't know anything about the villain, its safer to assume they are so-so.

Chance they're bluffing: 10-20%

11-21-2005 12:55 AM

Re: (55) So you\'ve decided to represent trips...
 
I reraise him on the flop to really see if he has a 10 or not. It gives you an indication of the strength of his hand b/c u now show major strength. If he comes over the top of you on the flop again I would fold.

gisb0rne 11-21-2005 01:05 AM

Re: (55) So you\'ve decided to represent trips...
 
I never fold an overpair at $55 and less against just 1 opponent. I would call the turn. I prefer reraising all-in on the flop.

I would say he's bluffing, on a flush draw, has an 8, or has pocket pair at least 75% of the time.


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