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ryanghall 12-10-2005 04:49 PM

2/4 KK big flop draw
 
Villain is 32/18/10 but that's only after 50 hands.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB ($388)
BB ($567.30)
UTG ($248.40)
UTG+1 ($1971.68)
UTG+2 ($748.10)
Hero ($558.10)
MP2 ($396.90)
MP3 ($866.60)
CO ($551.56)
Button ($503.58)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $45</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $29.

Flop: ($96) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

What is hero's line now?

xorbie 12-10-2005 05:00 PM

Re: 2/4 KK big flop draw
 
Bet $50.

ryanghall 12-10-2005 05:06 PM

Re: 2/4 KK big flop draw
 
Do you think this lets off AK (no diamonds) easily? Or are you thinking that hand would raise...

As well, the reason I don't like this is that AA, no diamonds, may very well raise my bet. If they do, they may consider themselves committed to the pot when I push.

However, if I CR all-in, it's WA/WB...

What do you think?

Raven 12-10-2005 05:08 PM

Re: 2/4 KK big flop draw
 
I would bet about 70 $. If he raise I would go all-in most of the time, sometimes just call and open bet the turn all-in just to throw them off.

ryanghall 12-11-2005 02:38 AM

Re: 2/4 KK big flop draw
 
anyone else before i give results?

Big_Jim 12-11-2005 02:54 AM

Re: 2/4 KK big flop draw
 
I like xorbies line. Re-raise all in if he raises.

[ QUOTE ]
.. the reason I don't like this is that AA, no diamonds, may very well raise my bet. If they do, they may consider themselves committed to the pot when I push.

[/ QUOTE ]

It's not the end of the world.

Board: 8d 7d 2d
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 57.8788 % [ 00.58 00.00 ] { AsAh }
Hand 2: 42.1212 % [ 00.42 00.00 ] { KdKc }

Woolygimp 12-11-2005 03:05 AM

Re: 2/4 KK big flop draw
 
without reading replies jims usually right so i agree with whatever he said...

ryanghall 12-11-2005 03:11 AM

Re: 2/4 KK big flop draw
 
How is this line better than check-raising all-in? It has the added benefit of quite possibly folding out AA, no diamonds, as well as gaining an almost sure bet out of your opponent no matter what he's got.

Ryan

flawless_victory 12-11-2005 03:15 AM

Re: 2/4 KK big flop draw
 
go 4 the checkraise.

Big_Jim 12-11-2005 03:28 AM

Re: 2/4 KK big flop draw
 
Your problem with the line is that it prices in AA no diamond to call, but it also prices KK, QQ and JJ no diamond to call.


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