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mgsimpleton 12-14-2005 05:31 AM

check up
 
it's like going to the doctor's office. i've been running bad as of late just let me know if you guys like this, this kind of sh*t is standard for me but maybe that ain't so good when i have an aggro image (which is... always).

effective stack 700...

5/10 6 max... i limp, LP makes it 35, blinds fold i call with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. i sometimes fold this but the raise was so small...

flop (85) K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

i check, he bets 60, i call

turn (205): 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

i check he bets 150, i c/r all in

THATWACOKID 12-14-2005 05:36 AM

Re: check up
 
you got your action screwed up somewhere

mgsimpleton 12-14-2005 05:39 AM

Re: check up
 
deductive reasoning, man. fixed now for those who lack that skill.

captZEEbo1 12-14-2005 05:42 AM

Re: check up
 
in my humble and modest opinion, villain is too short to fold a pair of kings here. Also I wouldn't be surprised if a pair of jacks with the diamond looks you up here too.

edge 12-14-2005 07:27 AM

Re: check up
 
I like it. I don't really like preflop though. I almost never openlimp at 6-max.

12-14-2005 07:43 AM

Re: check up
 
preflop fold
flop fold
turn as played call

punter11235 12-14-2005 08:11 AM

Re: check up
 
I dont like it.
I dont like preflop cause I dont think playing A10o in EP is good idea but its certainly a possibility, just my taste.
Flop I fold. weak hand OOP with very dangerous flop which probably hit Villain in some way. I really cant see why you expect to play this with +EV here.. Villain probably has better hand and better position. Instamuck for me.

Turn I also fold. Many Villains will check hands which they intend to muck to allin. Another danger is that if Villain has something like K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] he will probably talk himself into call with these stacks.
Even if your equity in that pot is 25% (should be probably lower: your equity vs AK is 20%, vs KQ about 25 vs 2pair again about 25) you need Villain to fold his hand 41% of the time to make it profitable. In my opinion its not going to happen (unless Villain is solid regular.. solid regulars learnt to fold to allins often cause they first thought isnt "she must be bluffing")

edge 12-14-2005 09:21 AM

Re: check up
 
Oh yeah, I should add that I don't like the flop play either.

durrrr 12-14-2005 09:25 AM

Re: check up
 
lead>fold>call on the flop imo. Definitely close though. Turn is an easy c/r allin once you get there (although i dont mind a lead here either).

Yeti 12-14-2005 11:48 AM

Re: check up
 
Why are you guys all folding this preflop? This makes baby Yeti cry.


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