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whitelime 12-03-2005 09:50 PM

5/10 NL 6 Max....TPTK facing the old CMR
 
Villain in this hand is chaznyjets. He is 33/10/2. My notes on him say the following:

1) Do not try to bluff him off top pair
2) Makes blocking bets on river and still calls decent size raises with marginal hands

Not sure if any of this effects the hand...

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB ($1072)
UTG ($975)
MP ($4003.65)
Hero ($1078)
SB ($1217)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
UTG calls $10, MP calls $10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $55</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $45, MP folds.

Flop: ($135) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $115</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $230</font>, Hero calls $115.

Turn: ($595) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $200</font>, Hero ?

captZEEbo1 12-03-2005 10:10 PM

Re: 5/10 NL 6 Max....TPTK facing the old CMR
 
allin or fold flop, i probably just shove it

BobboFitos 12-03-2005 11:17 PM

Re: 5/10 NL 6 Max....TPTK facing the old CMR
 
[ QUOTE ]
allin or fold flop, i probably just shove it

[/ QUOTE ]

boo

I like how op played it, now he gets to push the turn

RikaKazak 12-04-2005 12:12 AM

Re: 5/10 NL 6 Max....TPTK facing the old CMR
 
I like just calling flop, that way if you're vs. a draw you can push a safe turn and he only has 1 card to hit. If a sick turn comes you can get away from the hand.

whitelime 12-04-2005 12:51 AM

Re: 5/10 NL 6 Max....TPTK facing the old CMR
 
So you guys push this turn....?

creedofhubris 12-04-2005 02:51 AM

Re: 5/10 NL 6 Max....TPTK facing the old CMR
 
your notes tell you that he pays off with top pair here, so push.

TheWorstPlayer 12-04-2005 01:44 PM

Re: 5/10 NL 6 Max....TPTK facing the old CMR
 
Yes. I always seem to lose to a set, but I still manage to convince myself that he has top pair or a draw the next time. I like your line, though.

VanVeen 12-04-2005 02:43 PM

Re: 5/10 NL 6 Max....TPTK facing the old CMR
 
Uhm, shoving is pretty terrible vs. random opponent in isolation. Random players don't call with worse hands when you shove the flop (but they'll bet the turn), nor is their hand range predominately draws. And even if it were, almost no one checks the turn when their draw whiffs.

If you plan to continue, this is super easy call unless opponent is a donkey or everyone at the table thinks you're overaggro/semibluff all-in happy. Call flop, shove or fold turn. Calling turn almost always sucks.

Vs. this dude, if memory serves, I'd probably just shove it all-in. He doesn't like being pushed around and you're the type of player everyone is suspicious of.

captZEEbo1 12-04-2005 04:04 PM

Re: 5/10 NL 6 Max....TPTK facing the old CMR
 
I guess my original post should have read....all in now (on the turn) or you should've folded the flop. That's what I meant anyways

Brock Landers 12-04-2005 07:44 PM

Re: 5/10 NL 6 Max....TPTK facing the old CMR
 
Kinda looks like Villian is pricing himself in on a straight or flush draw with the small 1/3 pot turn bet. The flop miniraise is consistent with a draw for some players also.


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