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ArturiusX 12-15-2005 10:15 PM

Bluffed on the turn, now what?
 
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Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (5 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero?????

Villian is a 51/3/.6, pretty average idiot sort of player.

The question, if hes bluffing on the turn, does he still call?

toss 12-15-2005 10:27 PM

Re: Bluffed on the turn, now what?
 
I think you'll get value from low pairs. I say bet/fold.

ArturiusX 12-15-2005 10:32 PM

Re: Bluffed on the turn, now what?
 
Also, I dont know if Im bluffed on the turn, it could be some weird play, it just looks that way so far.

MrWookie47 12-15-2005 10:32 PM

Re: Bluffed on the turn, now what?
 
Agreed. I think there's an outside chance he calls here, and if he does, you'll have him beaten often enough.

TheKentock 12-15-2005 11:39 PM

Re: Bluffed on the turn, now what?
 
I can also see someone waiting until the turn to raise their Jack with a lower kicker. I think there's value in a bet as well.

brazilio 12-15-2005 11:44 PM

Re: Bluffed on the turn, now what?
 
A J is an unlikely card, and standard play from a lot of guys is to wait until the turn to raise their pp to induce a more likely fold, and to get 1/2BB more out of overcards. If he can fold, I check it through because very few losing hands will call. It's likely he can't fold worth [censored], so there's an easy value bet here, folding to the c/r.

paperboyNC 12-15-2005 11:55 PM

Re: Bluffed on the turn, now what?
 
A lot players don't understand value-betting, especially on the river.

The A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] is a scare card to him. I think he has QJ or KJ a lot here [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Cancuk 12-16-2005 12:03 AM

Re: Bluffed on the turn, now what?
 
check behind. it looks like he has a J, and he's calling your river bet.

dealer_toe 12-16-2005 12:32 AM

Re: Bluffed on the turn, now what?
 
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check behind. it looks like he has a J, and he's calling your river bet.

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There are worse jacks that are calling our river bet. So just because we think he has a jack isn't reason enough not to bet.

Lmn55d 12-16-2005 12:41 AM

Re: Bluffed on the turn, now what?
 
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The question, if hes bluffing on the turn, does he still call?


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That's not an important question because when he checks the ace it means there's a very low chance he was bluffing


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