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Mat Sklansky 10-25-2005 06:19 PM

Please return ALL colors to normal
 
Evan, I will demote you as soon as you reply to this post requesting I take this action.

I think this clears up the two unresolved issues of the week.

Mat

AngryCola 10-25-2005 06:21 PM

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Please return ALL colors to normal

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Excellent.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...a/clapping.gif

I liked the site rep. thing, but this is better than where we were at before, IMO.

Evan 10-25-2005 06:26 PM

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Evan, I will demote you as soon as you reply to this post requesting I take this action.

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Replied and requested.

timprov 10-25-2005 06:33 PM

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Evan's actual username is bitesize00? That's fabulous.

stabn 10-25-2005 06:34 PM

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Evan's actual username is bitesize00? That's fabulous.

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That is almost awesome enough to let him run rampant doing whatever he wants...

jdl22 10-25-2005 06:37 PM

Re: Please return ALL colors to normal
 
Just to be clear, ALL means ALL except MM,DS,Ray Zee,NPA, and mods obviously?

Dynasty 10-25-2005 06:41 PM

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Just to be clear, ALL means ALL except MM,DS,Ray Zee,NPA, and mods obviously?

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An Admin's normal color is red. A Moderator's normal color is green.

Lloyd 10-25-2005 07:50 PM

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I've got to say I'm a bit upset at this decision. For one, in an earlier thread you (Mat) said that as long as their weren't complaints that we could use colors as we see fit. Had you not said that, I wouldn't have taken it to the forum for discussion. But you did, and I did. MTT voted overwhelmingly to give the color idea a chance. And two days later it's overturned for no reason. That makes me look like a complete idiot, and also goes against the will of the forum for no good reason. If there was an issue, fine, let me/us know. Otherwise, this whole thing just absolutely doesn't make any sense and kind of irritates me after spending about an hour of my time on it.

AngryCola 10-25-2005 08:02 PM

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That makes me look like a complete idiot

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I fail to see how. Just explain to people that it wasn't your decision.

[censored] 10-25-2005 08:08 PM

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kind of irritates me after spending about an hour of my time on it.


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I don't think this a fair to Mat. We all agreed to be a mod and doing so requires time we otherwise wouldn't spend. We also all know that he has the ultimate say in how the forum is run. Disagreeing and argueing is certainly ok but trying to use a wasted time arguement doesn't have much merit IMO and like I said isn't fair.

Lloyd 10-25-2005 08:09 PM

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That makes me feel like a complete idiot

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I fail to see how. Just explain to people that it wasn't your decision.

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There, I changed my post (at least the quote within yours). Plus I wasted quite a bit of time trying to implement what I thought was a well-thought out system that an overwhelming number of MTT members wanted. It was on a trial basis to see if it worked, and given that there was no opposition by Mat prior to doing so, the trial should have been allowed to go on or at least a resonable explanation given.

Mat Sklansky 10-25-2005 08:12 PM

Re: Please return ALL colors to normal
 
A) What Angry Cola said
B) There were plenty of complaints, perhaps not in your forum, but elsewhere.
C) I'm not going to allow a bunch of ill-will to be built up amongst this team of moderators over disagreements involving...

colors?

Lloyd 10-25-2005 08:12 PM

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Barring an explanation that something has come up in the past two days, I don't think it's unreasonable for me to be upset since he said he had no opinion about the colors just the other day. Had he said "I hate colors. Don't use them." then fine. Or if he said I'm not liking the way you're using them, it's just not working. Fine. But to kill it after acquiescing is not right. Sorry. I feel pretty strongly about this.

[censored] 10-25-2005 08:15 PM

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Barring an explanation that something has come up in the past two days, I don't think it's unreasonable for me to be upset since he said he had no opinion about the colors just the other day. Had he said "I hate colors. Don't use them." then fine. Or if he said I'm not liking the way you're using them, it's just not working. Fine. But to kill it after acquiescing is not right. Sorry. I feel pretty strongly about this.

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Lloyd, like I said I think its fine for you to disagree and want further explanation. It was just that one particular point of arguement I thought was out of line.

Lloyd 10-25-2005 08:17 PM

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And had you included in the original post that you've received an overwhelming number of complaints and for that reason you now believe everyone should have the same color, then great. No problem. But without doing so it just didn't seem right.

And in reality, we're not going to have a consensus among all issues. And that shouldn't stop us from trying to do something that provides value to the forum.

Lloyd 10-25-2005 08:19 PM

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The *unnecessary* wasting of time is not part of the job. I've said my peace. Mat responded. I think it could have been explained better in the initial post but whatever. End of the discussion (for me).

Mike Haven 10-25-2005 08:24 PM

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colors?

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vas is dis colors?

Mat Sklansky 10-25-2005 08:25 PM

Re: Please return ALL colors to normal
 
Lloyd,

I apologize that this issue and decision has caused you some grief. After reading through all the threads on colors in this forum, I came to the conclusion that the changing of colors would create more harm than good. I agree that in your forum, this probably would not have been the case, but at the moment, I'm not able to implement policies for single forums.

I should have included this explanation in my original post. At the time I made it, it did not occur to me that my rationale wasn't obvious.

jdl22 10-25-2005 08:39 PM

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Just to be clear, ALL means ALL except MM,DS,Ray Zee,NPA, and mods obviously?

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An Admin's normal color is red. A Moderator's normal color is green.

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I realise that I'm just clarifying that Ray Zee shouldn't have his color changed nor should Mat's dad. Don't think they're admin but I could be wrong.

Mike Haven 10-25-2005 08:41 PM

Re: Please return ALL colors to normal
 
I am not, and I don't think I am, by any means, the official voice of your team, but I hope I speak for a number of us when I apologise to you for causing you unnecessary hassle by our internal bickering and nit-picking.

Ironically-speaking, I hope that you realise that this bickering and nit-picking comes about because you have picked a good team of individuals who care about your site and who take their duties perhaps more seriously than you had envisaged when you set out on your course to have greater involvement by your clientele.

Here's to the people.

Lloyd 10-25-2005 09:36 PM

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Thank you.

Mat Sklansky 10-25-2005 10:15 PM

Re: Please return ALL colors to normal
 
you are correct in your assumptions

Mat Sklansky 10-25-2005 10:17 PM

Re: Please return ALL colors to normal
 
Cheers.

I think that's the correct response here.


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