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11-23-2005 10:58 PM

Theoretical situation.. first hand of the WSOP main event
 
I apologize if such a thread has been created before, but here we go...

Imagine you are a pro, say someone as good as Phil Ivey. It is the first hand of the WSOP main event. You are in the BB. Everyone folds to the SB, who moves all in.

You look down and find AA. Regardless of what you believe the SB to have... is this an instant call?

Some people seem to argue that someone as good as Phil Ivey doesn't need to take such a quick risk, even tho he is a very likely favourite to any of the SB's range of hands. Some would argue that he could "out play" many other plays without having to risk all of his chips.

Then again, winning this pot would put Phil in a great position to be very aggressive, and dominate the table, and perhaps the rest of the tournament.

Some argue, if you're not willing to put everything in with AA in this situation, maybe you don't have what it takes to win the tournament, since you obviously need some luck to get there anyways. What better than to move your money in with the best hand possible preflop?

Thoughts?

TransientR 11-23-2005 11:04 PM

Re: Theoretical situation.. first hand of the WSOP main event
 
As you suggest, this situation has been gone over ad nauseum. To quote Doyle Brunson when asked about this scenario:

"The day I fold AA preflop is the day I quit playing poker."

That about sums it up.

Frank

11-23-2005 11:05 PM

Re: Theoretical situation.. first hand of the WSOP main event
 
You have to call, I don't care who you are. If he has a smaller pair, my guess at this point, then you are 4-1 favorite. It's going to be tough to find a point when you are a better favorite at any point in a hand.

Aceshigh7 11-23-2005 11:08 PM

Re: Theoretical situation.. first hand of the WSOP main event
 
Did the other 2000 posts regarding this theoretical situation just not do it for you?

Ulysses 11-23-2005 11:19 PM

Re: Theoretical situation.. first hand of the WSOP main event
 
Alright, I didn't look at the post, but I'm gonna take a wild guess and say "CALL."

Army Eye 11-23-2005 11:20 PM

Re: Theoretical situation.. first hand of the WSOP main event
 
This isn't even the right forum for this. Post this to the MTT forum so you can be flamed by the right people [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

SoftcoreRevolt 11-23-2005 11:20 PM

Re: Theoretical situation.. first hand of the WSOP main event
 
WTF? This isn't even a very good "Should I fold AA" situation. This is one of the best places you'll find to get your money in.

Like Chipo Greensteen said, the Day I risk my tournament on one pair is the day Coca Cola stock skyrockets to record highs.

mittman84 11-23-2005 11:50 PM

Re: Theoretical situation.. first hand of the WSOP main event
 
this is one if the dumbest posts i have ever read. Good idea to fold AA with a chance to double up on the first hand. even a player as good as phil ivey has to get lucky to win the wsop, just look at this years final table.

nsj 11-23-2005 11:57 PM

Re: Theoretical situation.. first hand of the WSOP main event
 
[ QUOTE ]
I apologize if such a thread has been created before, but here we go...

Imagine you are a pro, say someone as good as Phil Ivey. It is the first hand of the WSOP main event. You are in the BB. Everyone folds to the SB, who moves all in.

You look down and find /

[/ QUOTE ]

I stopped reading here.
J4o? Fold and look for a better situation.

11-24-2005 12:42 AM

Re: Theoretical situation.. first hand of the WSOP main event
 
easiest call in the world...people like you are the reason we make so much money


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