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Russ McGinley 03-19-2005 04:47 AM

Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
I'll be getting a nice big check in the mail for ~$600. I can either add to my current bankroll (which would about double it) or snatch a 2001FP.

Also, are there any updated coupons for the 2001FP? The best deal I could find from past posts this month would get it shipped to me for $571 with a couple of coupons.

TheMetetron 03-19-2005 04:50 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
Definitely double that bad boy. With a roll so small, if you feel comfortable, it will let you move up faster.

dengar 03-19-2005 04:54 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
I am having the same problem knowing when to put some money out of to increase the bank roll. Right now i am just increasing the roll and trying to figure out when is a good time to start bringing some of the money home.

theredwave 03-19-2005 04:56 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
I said double the bankroll but maybe some info on what limits you play, how many tables usually and the monitor you have now would help.

TheMetetron 03-19-2005 04:58 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
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some info on what limits you play, how many tables usually and the monitor you have now would help.

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gorgeous 03-19-2005 05:23 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
I'd get the 2001fp. So convenient.

Russ McGinley 03-19-2005 05:28 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
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I said double the bankroll but maybe some info on what limits you play, how many tables usually and the monitor you have now would help.

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Right this second I just completed the Party 20% bonus and am playing .50/1 working on my game after about a 2-3 week break. I usually play 1/2.

Current monitor is a 17" Viewsonic A70f+, max res. 1280x1024. I can only really do 2 tables, as 3 or 4 gives too much overlap to deal with.

theredwave 03-19-2005 05:35 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
Alright, I'll stick with the double the roll answer. The added money should enable you to take advantage of some sign up offers and you could build that up quick enough if you haven't done all of the Party skins or the IGMPAY bonuses.

kenberman 03-19-2005 06:05 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
if you have the space, buy a 1600X12000 crt for about 1/4 the price of the 2001fp.

that way you can 4 table and increease your roll.

also, I would be hesitant in spending non-poker money for a poker indulgence. wait until you've won a couple thousand playing poker, then splurge on a $500 purchase.

tinga81 03-19-2005 06:18 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
Wow Russ, I am in pretty much the same boat as you. When I first saw this post, I thought you pulled it straight outta my head.

I have talked about the same situation with a friend of mine, and I have decided to wait it out a little bit, and gain a bankroll large enough to support the 4-tabling of 1/2 comfortably, and purchase the monitor. I've set the mark at $1700 before I get the monitor.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

solucky 03-19-2005 06:31 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
i have also a 17" and the instruction says 1280x max resolution. But to my surprise it works with 1920x1200 and i can 6 table. Its allways good to have 2k in neteller to use all Bonusoffers, u can make only with them any month the 2001 FP

Wolfgang

James282 03-19-2005 06:35 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
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I'd get the 2001fp. So convenient.

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You would say that.

Don't listen to these people, I didn't get a 2001fp until my br was 6 figures.
-James

Baulucky 03-19-2005 06:37 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
Increase BR!.

timprov 03-19-2005 06:44 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
I had approximately this same decision a month ago, and chose to cut my bankroll to $800 in order to get a 2001fp. I don't regret it, but then I had not yet begun bonus whoring in earnest and have quite easily turned that into $2500+ since. If you don't have that opportunity to boost bankroll quickly, you probably should wait.

Losing all 03-19-2005 07:04 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
If you like bonuses(who doesn't) you need 1k sitting in NT at all times. Plus you probably want another $300+ (depending on limit) on account for non-bonii play.

The monitor will most likely pay for itself quickly, but the extra bonus $$ from being fully whore-funded will buy a monitor quickly. Whoa, what a trip.

Yeknom58 03-19-2005 08:04 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
If this doubles your bankroll you should keep it in the roll.

Uglyowl 03-19-2005 08:09 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
Too many bonuses out there to have that small of a bankroll.

mmbt0ne 03-19-2005 11:11 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
If you can't make that $600 you spent on the 2001fp back in 2 months TOPS, then you might as well just go spend the money of whores.

Uglyowl 03-19-2005 11:24 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
With the extra $, come extra bonuses and then you get the monitor.

mmbt0ne 03-19-2005 11:32 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
No, no, no. You get the monitor, then you get the bonuses twice as fast. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

But someone made a good point about him not being able to make the $1000 deposits for some bonuses. I don't think either choice is bad, but maybe the BR is smarter in that regard.

sfwusc 03-19-2005 11:48 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
overlap? why does that matter.

I have a 15 widescreen laptop and 8 table.

This is what you do.

Search here for layout changes and make party software black with the playerview stats next to their name.

Use Playerview and PT.

Move your taskbar up so that about 10-15 windows can be open at a time.

Open up 8 party tables and start playing. If it starts blinking at the bottom, then you need to make a play on that table.

You can get around 300-400 hands an hour.

SWUSC

MarkL444 03-19-2005 11:51 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
omg double your br. spending that much of your roll now will slow you down too much. it will be a lot easier to afford that monitor once you move up.

Freakin 03-19-2005 12:00 PM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
Give up on poker and spend the whole bankroll on a Dell 2405FPW.

Freakin

jrad 03-19-2005 12:53 PM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
I was in the same exact position as you. I had a 17" lcd, 1280x1024 max resolution. Bankroll ~$800. I wasn't sure if I should wait or not. I decided to buy the 2001FP last week when it was around $490. Got it a few days ago. It ROCKS. What a difference.It's great to be able to comfortably 4 table (.50/1) on the 2001FP, and surf the net on the 17" lcd. In addition to poker, it's just really nice to have this larger screen. My opinion,spoil yourself man.

CrazyN8 03-19-2005 03:25 PM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
Hey, I built my roll up to $2500 before I got the 2001FP and I'm glad I did (actually up to $3500 thanks to some casino whoring) because I didn't have any worries - never good to play on a short bankroll. I think you should wait until at least $2000 before you buy the monitor. The only exception is if they have those sick coupons like they did a few weeks back.

AncientPC 03-19-2005 03:47 PM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
If you can already 4 table (i.e. go up to 1600x1200) stick it all in your bankroll.

If not, buy a CRT that can and stick the rest in your bankroll.

jrobb83 03-19-2005 03:50 PM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
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Don't listen to these people, I didn't get a 2001fp until my br was 6 figures.
-James

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Same here. Those who spend a significant portion of their bankroll are either being silly, or knowingly making a -EV move simply to have the big flatscreen everyone loves. I waited untill my hourly rate was high enough so that I thought the small amount of extra hours my eyes would take staring at the lcd rather than the crt was worth the significant premium for the 2001fp.

You can easily four table with no overlap on a $130 19 inch crt: spending half or even 10% of your bankroll on a $500 lcd is silly.

Russ McGinley 03-19-2005 05:44 PM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
Thanks for the advice all. I guess my best bet is to wait it out, maybe the price will drop even further. Maybe I can get a cheap ass 19" CRT in the meantime.

Thanks guys!

Also, I just remembered that I have a 15" Compaq monitor collecting dust in my closet. I'm gonna go buy a cheap PCI video card and try to dual monitor. Ghetto fabulous!

AAmaz0n 03-19-2005 07:04 PM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
I would go with increasing your bankroll.

I recently upgraded and had a similar decision and went with a cheap PCI (I have no AGP) dual head video card and a 19" CRT - the Samsung SyncMaster 997 DF that I've heard others recommend on the forum. For less than $300 I got a two monitor setup and can 4 table with no overlap on the 19" while playing other tables on the 17" or keeping an eye on the lobby for table selection.

Eventually I'll go up to the LCD, but don't want to spend more than 10% of my bankroll on upgrades at any given point. I agree with making your setup more comfortable and increasing efficiency, and strongly support being careful with your ergonomics – I’ve had some bouts with various strains and aches from not taking enough breaks or keeping my setup comfortable. But you have to decide what portion of your roll makes sense to committing at any given point.

Shauna

jrobb83 03-19-2005 07:10 PM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
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Also, I just remembered that I have a 15" Compaq monitor collecting dust in my closet. I'm gonna go buy a cheap PCI video card and try to dual monitor. Ghetto fabulous!

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Absolutely. Once you try a multi monitor set up, you can't go back. I'm not even playing more than 4 tables right now and I feel that having two monitors is still absolutely necessary.

Also to amend my previous post, I don't have a 6 figure roll, unlike some of the rich sons of bitches that frequent the board. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] I read 6 as 5 for some reason. I'm not nearly that good at poker. But my point is still valid.

Siingo 03-19-2005 09:56 PM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
Buy the monitor... I prefere to build my bankrol by playing poker. It will not take long to win the money, for you to step up in limit if you have the knowlig and experience to do so anyway. And if you do not have that then you should stay at the limit you play. And it is more fun to play at a monitor that do not overlap.... Also it is nice to give yourself something nice sometime with the thinking that this is something I will be able to do more often when I get beter at poker!
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pmuir10 03-19-2005 10:12 PM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
Double your bankroll. While your doing that though you can check out Tweak UI. I use it to 4-5 table on a labtop which has major overlap.

Tweak UI

busguy 03-20-2005 01:00 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
Bankroll . . . and in my book . . . it's not even close.


I got mine at $9500.


[img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] busguy

droolie 03-20-2005 01:11 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
If you whore you need the BR to get max bonuses.

Whore your ass off get you BR to $2500 and buy it ASAP though because it will save your eyes.

I have a CRT and my 2001fp side by side there is
simply no comparison when it comes to eye strain. I can
barely look at the CRT anymore. You never really notice
what the strobbing does to your eyes until you don't have
to deal with it anymore.

Russ McGinley 03-20-2005 01:16 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
I found a 15" CRT that I can really only use to do things other than playing (surfing for instance). My video card actually has a DVI output so I was able to use a DVI-VGA adapter and not have to buy a video card (although I did, will have to return it tomorrow). So I kind of improve things without spending money. I agree that you need a full bankroll to knock out these bonuses.

BeantownCaller 03-20-2005 01:20 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
[ QUOTE ]
if you have the space, buy a 1600X12000 crt for about 1/4 the price of the 2001fp.

that way you can 4 table and increease your roll.

also, I would be hesitant in spending non-poker money for a poker indulgence. wait until you've won a couple thousand playing poker, then splurge on a $500 purchase.

[/ QUOTE ]

Best advice in the thread, I got a used 21" Dell (with a trinitron tube) for $125 and it's awesome. As long as you've got some desk space I see no reason to spend $600 on a good monitor, this isn't 1997.

TomBrooks 03-20-2005 02:13 AM

Re: Increase bankroll or 2001FP?
 
I voted 2100, but I forgot CRTs are so cheap and can do 1600x1200 if your eyes are OK seeing the small tables on that size monitor.


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