ugly 30/60 river c/r
 

no reads. everyone value bet this river? everyone fold? what do you think of raising the turn?

Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $30.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (14.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP1 folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds.

River: (11.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 14.25 BB

Re: ugly 30/60 river c/r
 

yeah, but i'm prepared to see a barrage of "no" responses. i would just call the turn as well fwiw but i'm not as sure about that.

sorry, i was thinking i was in HUSH. on the river i would {1, 99}, {75, 23, 2}

Re: ugly 30/60 river c/r
 

I'd raise the turn. It's highly unlikely UTG+2 has the flush.

Re: ugly 30/60 river c/r
 

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on the river i would {1, 99}, {75, 23, 2}

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i wish i knew what that meant [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Re: ugly 30/60 river c/r
 

bet/fold....

Re: ugly 30/60 river c/r
 

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on the river i would {1, 99}, {75, 23, 2}

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i wish i knew what that meant [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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i think it means hed check 1% and bet 99%, and given that he bet hed fold 75%, call 23%, and 3-bet 2%

Re: ugly 30/60 river c/r
 

hes referring to this:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=0#Post3980494

btw i think elindauer is right and i think thats a great post.

Re: ugly 30/60 river c/r
 

On the turn I'm thinking {0,0,100} (did i do that right eric?). You're almost never behind to a flush here, and most sets would c/r the turn.

Given that you didn't I don't bet the river. The turn donk looks too much like ATo or AJo with a heart. This player cold called PF right, he's probably got something, and the only worse hand that calls your river bet is KJ (which is possible, but since you have the K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and the J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is on the board, I don't think its that likely).

I call the river raise against an unknown, the pots too big fold IMO, but my river play sucks.

lf

Re: ugly 30/60 river c/r
 

i think he'll showdown a jack here regardless of my bet...players play bad. i think im better off raising the turn though, like you said. i just dont want to put in 3 bets possibly drawing dead...possibly weak tight thinking.

FWIW, since the board is so raggy, I think i might lead first in with a flush draw in his positon.

Re: ugly 30/60 river c/r
 

whats the deal with your title?