How much $$ do the top online players earn?
 

I'm just wondering if anyone knows how much $$ some of the top online players earn? Take the top 5 guys for example. Are we talking $1,000,000 + per year?

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Yes we are talking about numbers like that, don't know the exact numbers, but take "thesalmon", "erik123", etc. as an example. He made $1mil> at Ladbrokes alone last year, and he's playing quite a bit on cryptologic as well...

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ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS

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LOL

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If one truely has the willpower and discipline to become a top player then you have a very good livelyhood indeed. Take me for instance, I can almost afford that new mountain dew I've been eyeing in the quik mart. The story that sticks in my mind from here is about john282 making 160k in a month, or maybe it was 190, either way it was impressive.

Cambraceres

I'll be eating food tonight!!!$$$$!!!

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I made 6 million dollars alone last year playing POKER!!! on THE INTERNET!!!

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Hi Bigslick75093,

Welcome to the forums. Don't let these jokers like Sponger get to you. The best online players are easily making hundreds of dollars per year.

Kneel Before,

Zod

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I'm just wondering if anyone knows how much $$ some of the top online players earn? Take the top 5 guys for example. Are we talking $1,000,000 + per year?

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Last year's top money earner:

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haha awesome.

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ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS

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Austin Powers has a POSSE!

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160k/month OMG john282 rocks!!

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So does anyone actually know an approximate amount without trying to look like 'the cool guy' on the forum? I was wondering, too.

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160k/month OMG john282 rocks!!

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Where can we find this John282 guy?

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I'll take a wild guess:

Ignoring tournament wins (too much luck), these are my guesses on the number of guys/gals who can consistently make these figures year in/year out online.

High hundreds/Low thousands can probably consistently make over 100K/year.

Low hundreds (maybe below 100) can consistently make over 200K/year.

Few (no more than a dozen) can consistently make mid-high hundreds of thousands/year.

Now some of these guys play a very high variance game (HU high limit) and can run above average one year and make a ton of money, but will lose a lot the next year (or month). But I'm talking about their overall long-term expectations here.

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So does anyone actually know an approximate amount without trying to look like 'the cool guy' on the forum? I was wondering, too.

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I would tell you, but I have a date with the Hooper triplets.

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I'm just wondering if anyone knows how much $$ some of the top online players earn? Take the top 5 guys for example. Are we talking $1,000,000 + per year?

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Realistically? Hard to say. My guess is that there are a handfull pulling in upwards of a million a year, but I'd also say that the internet phenomenon is too new to know if they can actually sustain that on a year to year basis.

When Mike Matusow talks about dropping 400k or 800k or whatever it was in a few weeks online, you know somebody's there soaking that money up. What it also means is that there are games going fairly regularly where that kind of money can change hands. Which means that the big winners in those games are looking at six figure type years.

I read somewhere that GOT's goal for the year is 450k. How realistic that is is up to you to decide, but put it at somwhere more than a handful but less than several dozen making half a mil or more per year, with the same caveat about sustainability.

Now when you start talking how many are making really good but not eye popping money money, say 175-200k a year, I too would like to know, its hard to figure. I'm guessing its a lot fewer than could be doing it but for discipline and money management issues but I'm out of estimates there.

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Mike Matusow talks about dropping 400k or 800k or whatever it was in a few weeks online

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The real Mahatma!!

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5-10 ppl over 1M a year.

20 btwn 500k-1M

another 30 btwn 200k-500k

another 200 btwn 100k-200k


That'd be my guess if you held a gun to my head and made me estimate based on my knowledge of others.

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5-10 ppl over 1M a year.

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another 200 btwn 100k-200k


That'd be my guess if you held a gun to my head and made me estimate based on my knowledge of others.

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I would estimate this x 2.0

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another 200 btwn 100k-200k

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whaaaa?

I feel like there are 200 people from 2+2 that make $100K+ a year

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5-10 ppl over 1M a year.

20 btwn 500k-1M

another 30 btwn 200k-500k

another 200 btwn 100k-200k


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I would estimate this x 2.0

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I considered that actually but decided a lot of the current winners are lottery winners who are outdoing their expectation, and what I have here are exactly how many are expected to EV-wise.

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I don't know enough about the high rollers to answer the upper columns, but there must be more than 260 people that make more than 100k.

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In your list above, what % would you say are limit players vs no limit... etc.

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There are NLHE, SNGers, MTT, LHE, and the rest too. I am almost positive twice this number actually wins this. How many people have this expectaion for their WRxhrs, then ya you're probably pretty close.

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i think this # is significantly higher

Barron

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5-10 ppl over 1M a year.

20 btwn 500k-1M

another 30 btwn 200k-500k

another 200 btwn 100k-200k


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I considered that actually but decided a lot of the current winners are lottery winners who are outdoing their expectation, and what I have here are exactly how many are expected to EV-wise.

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For all the lottery winners you also have the guys who are running badly and not making as much as their expectation.

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Schneids, you're a much better player than I, but your numbers are too low. Someone who is a decent winner at 5/10 6 max and who puts in enough hours can clear 100K+ a year, and 5/10 ain't all that hard to beat. Out of the millions who play poker online, only 200 win 100K? The games today are simply too good for that estimate to be right.

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whaaaa?

I feel like there are 200 people from 2+2 that make $100K+ a year

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Name 10...you can't can you...

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another 200 btwn 100k-200k

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i think this # is significantly higher

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I think everyone is vastly overestimating how many people on this site, and in internet poker in general, are earning boatloads of money. Yes, there are a LOT who are earning $50,000-$100,000. And maybe I should have said 200 for $150,000-$200,000, but really, I don't think my numbers are nearly as low as y'all do. Plus, there are a lot of people who are winning players but simply don't play many hours, or have a job, or w/e and they earn their supplemental income but probably could pull in 200k+ if they devoted more of their life to it.

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whaaaa?

I feel like there are 200 people from 2+2 that make $100K+ a year

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Name 10...you can't can you...

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while there aren't likely to be 200 peopole JUST from 2p2 who make over 100k/year, i feel that many understimate the microcosm that it this population. further, i think that between high stakes limit and NL, this site does indeed produce a large # of people who make over 100k/year. without even thinking hard i can name 8. and i dont even know that many people on here...

though 2p2 comprises a disproportionally high percent of large winners, there are just so many many many millions of players that some will do it by just sheer chance alone. add those to the great players from other countries who dont even frequent this site and you're gunna start looking at a # much larger than 200.

Barron

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5-10 ppl over 1M a year.

20 btwn 500k-1M

another 30 btwn 200k-500k

another 200 btwn 100k-200k


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I would estimate this x 2.0

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I considered that actually but decided a lot of the current winners are lottery winners who are outdoing their expectation, and what I have here are exactly how many are expected to EV-wise.

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lol, nothing like exact guesses [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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i think this # is significantly higher

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I think everyone is vastly overestimating how many people on this site, and in internet poker in general, are earning boatloads of money. Yes, there are a LOT who are earning $50,000-$100,000. And maybe I should have said 200 for $150,000-$200,000, but really, I don't think my numbers are nearly as low as y'all do. Plus, there are a lot of people who are winning players but simply don't play many hours, or have a job, or w/e and they earn their supplemental income but probably could pull in 200k+ if they devoted more of their life to it.

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good post. good estimation.

Barron

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Id expect there to be far more than 200, and i expect that number will increase considering an increasing number turning pro - those retiring/dying.

On a side note, i find arguments like:

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just plain funny. can you name 10 people living in Africa? no, you cant, but that doesnt mean there arent millions living in Africa....

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There are 100k+ winners every week in the big sunday tournies obv

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There are 100k+ winners every week in the big sunday tournies obv

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Not necessarily true, I think in the last one on Stars there was a 4 way chop giving those guys each around 70k.

In any case, how many of the big Sunday tourney winners go on to make 200k for this year, much less per/year every year?

--Zetack

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So does anyone actually know an approximate amount without trying to look like 'the cool guy' on the forum? I was wondering, too.

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I would tell you, but I have a date with the Hooper triplets.

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K, i have to admit that had me cracking up out loud. good one :P

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Making 100K/+one year and having the ability to earn the same money or better over time each year is the real issue. I'm sure there are many players that have had $100K+ years in any of the last 3 years that are either busted right now or no longer playing and they are doing other things.

There's got to be some nod to consistency...many one-time huge online winners lack money management skills to stay in the game and continue to earn at a high level. So to base any survey on just one year's earn is not judicious.

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This is silly logic. Shouldn't there be just as many people who can make that much EV-wise but are running bad as those who are running good?