45s 200-400 hand
 

6-handed 200-400 HE. UTG, a young loose aggressive player raises. A weak player playing scared money cold-calls, a tight, tough player cold calls on the button, I call in the big blind with 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

The flop is A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. I check, checked to the button who bets. I call, UTG folds, weak player thinks for a moment and calls.

The turn is the T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. I check, the weak player checks, the button bets, I checkraise, the weak player tanks then folds, the button calls.

The river is the 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. I bet, the button raises. I three-bet, he four-bets, I call.

Thoughts? I think my play on all streets was debatable.

-Diplomat

Re: 45s 200-400 hand
 

I don't particularly like the turn check-raise against these loose aggro types because it forces you to dedicate 3 bets to the pot regardless of whether you hit on the end or not. Granted you have a lot of equity here(if he isn't drawing to the higher flush) and you might have some folding equity --- so the turn check-raise might come out to be about neutral ev. The rest of the hand is good, I especially like the river, I think it's the perfect amount of bets.
-James

Re: 45s 200-400 hand
 

your hand is strong enough here that leading out or checkraising the flop is generally going to be the better play. however, after taking the passive route on the flop i do like the checkraise on the turn if you think the button can fold his hand. i dont play anywhere near these limits tho.

Re: 45s 200-400 hand
 

looks like K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

i think you played it well on all streets. i love a turn check-raise in that spot. you put the guy playing scared money to the test and got him out of there, and the button could be betting a missed flop and fold to your turn c/r. also you have around 1.5 million outs.

i think you have to bet and 3-bet the river, and i don't think you can really 5-bet.

Re: 45s 200-400 hand
 

Nice play but too many raises on the river.

do these games exist in toronto?
 

i didnt know such high stakes existed in toronto. The only place i know for live is rama. where do you play?

Re: do these games exist in toronto?
 

Blue Heron in Port Perry spreads large games occassionally. Brantford's highest is 50/100 occassionally.

Re: 45s 200-400 hand
 

This is an interesting hand. I know I like preflop. I know I like the river. Not sure about the other 2 streets.

Re: do these games exist in toronto?
 

This hand didn't happen in Toronto, but I do know of stakes up to 300-600, if you don't mind club games. 50-100, 75-150, and sometimes 100-200 go every Tuesday at Great Blue Heron. Almost every time I go, there is one 50-100 and one 75-150 or 100-200 going.

-Diplomat

Re: do these games exist in toronto?
 

IIRC, the Brantford game died out pretty quickly because they offered it every day that people wanted to play it. Although Toronto is a very large city, it simply lacks the poker player population to support this game on a daily basis.

That, and Brantford sucks. As Gamblor put it, it's like playing poker inside of an airplane hanger. A glittery, noisy airplane hanger.

-Diplomat