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DMBFan23 08-21-2005 12:21 AM

Re: How do you guys handle the swings emotionally?
 
I don't handle it, I tilt.

Willluck 08-21-2005 12:24 AM

Re: How do you guys handle the swings emotionally?
 
I used to hate the short-term downswings, then I got used to them. The worst are like the 10k+ hand 200BB downswings. These swings make me question my game, and doubt good plays that I make.

After awhile of running 10k or so at 8BB/100, I started getting pissed at the short-term downswings again(because I forgot about them), but I don't anymore [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

DMBFan23 08-21-2005 12:32 AM

Re: How do you guys handle the swings emotionally?
 
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After awhile of running 10k or so at 8BB/100[img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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STFU

Willluck 08-21-2005 12:37 AM

Re: How do you guys handle the swings emotionally?
 
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After awhile of running 10k or so at 8BB/100[img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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STFU

[/ QUOTE ]It followed a 5k hand 220 BB downswing. Maybe it was 7.5 bb/100
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...and it was followed by the longest losing stretch of my life.

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/5906/36graph2iw.jpg

ghcnoob 08-21-2005 12:38 AM

Re: How do you guys handle the swings emotionally?
 
I went through a horrific 350 BB downswing at 10/20 recently...it's painful but it does turn eventually if you are a decent player. Some things that helped me...

1) Walking away from the computer, even for a couple minutes, can refresh your perspective.

2) A stress ball is not such a bad thing. If you live alone yelling can release stress.

3) Intellectualize: Bad beats will make you money in the long run as the fish chase...

3)There are more important things in the world then poker. You have friends, family, health, etc. Read Grisga's post from a while back about his son. That'll put things in perspective...

That's my 2 cents

Alexthegreat 08-21-2005 01:22 AM

Re: How do you guys handle the swings emotionally?
 
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I usually take it out on my balls. Yes, I have several and they were purchased after I started playing poker.

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Grisgra 08-21-2005 02:05 AM

It\'s not too hard, with a little
 
perspective.

OrianasDaad 08-21-2005 02:10 AM

Re: How do you guys handle the swings emotionally?
 
Play less tables and dial in on the game for awhile. That emotion you feel when you are on a downswing is very likely to affect your play, and you'll be compounding your errors further by playing lots of tables.

Of course, if your game "has a lot of flaws", then multi-tabling is just inviting higher variance, even a negative winrate. Single table for ~$9/hr until you fix all your biggest leaks.

Analyse your own play ruthlessly.

Lastly, do lots and lots of math. Do poker related math until your brain hurts. Once you do enough of this, you'll understand, trust, and believe that variance is how you are able to make money at poker. I already know that you know that mentally, but you don't believe it yet.

MAxx 08-21-2005 02:14 AM

Re: How do you guys handle the swings emotionally?
 
I agree with that bro. If you get a better understanding of what poker really is, and how you make your money from makeing the plays with the greatest longterm expectation and from opponents mistakes....you will become more comfortable with temporary downturns. Understanding the temporary and the insificance of a snapshot of a temporary low point on a graph is key. Once you digest this and understand it truly, you become increasingly comfortable with being temporarly separated from some of your cheese.

tansoku 08-21-2005 02:38 AM

Re: How do you guys handle the swings emotionally?
 
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i beat off

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LMFAO, that was funny..sigh...needed that..
I wonder if that can be classified as a form of tilt, or maybe a metric - i.e. is frequency proportional to -BB/100?


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