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RED FACE 12-29-2005 01:38 AM

100NL full: Overpair vs semi-shortstacked and loose-bad opponent...
 
No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP2 ($81.00)
MP3 ($101.00)
CO ($53.00)
Button ($92.00)
SB ($114.00)
BB ($41.00)
UTG ($87.00)
UTG+1 ($83.00)
Hero ($101.00)
MP1 ($158.00)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, UTG+1 calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, UTG calls $5, UTG+1 calls $5.

Flop: ($19.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $18</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $36</font>.

Final Pot: $73.50

Normally I don't bet this large but the table was loose.

I think there is no room to communicate that I have an overpair instead of cont betting so if I continue it will be for my entire stack - agree?

He could have trips or better or AT, JJ, QQ, TT or maybe a draw but I wasn't thinking draw.

Does the fact that this was a check-raise indicate he's not on JJ or QQ or maybe even AT(tho I think AT is more likely to cr than JJ or QQ for reasons I can't explain).

Most importantly, is this a pretty easy/auto-fold?

I always make notes on people who lose their stack w an overpair: I'd hate to make notes on myself.

thanks a lot

DJ Sensei 12-29-2005 02:06 AM

Re: 100NL full: Overpair vs semi-shortstacked and loose-bad opponent...
 
Call, raise turn all-in. (Unless its an A, and he pushes ahead of you... then fold angrily) If he has AT, a 3-bet could scare him off. I don't think we can fold this against a loose-bad opponent, and i think JJ is definitely in his range here. loose-bad opponents love overpairs.

deaders 12-29-2005 02:07 AM

Re: 100NL full: Overpair vs semi-shortstacked and loose-bad opponent...
 
If he is definitely loose and bad then call the raise and play it from there. Check turn if he checks, you may want fold if he makes a medium/big bet on the turn, dont know how good this is though.

12-29-2005 02:52 AM

Re: 100NL full: Overpair vs semi-shortstacked and loose-bad opponent..
 
With the game as loose as you say, I think you have to play it for your entire stack if that's what it comes down to. A lot of loose players love paired flops like that and see them as a great bluffing opportunity. I think if he had caught trips or a boat, he probably would have just check-called, trying to induce a bigger bet from you on the turn.

12-29-2005 04:57 AM

Re: 100NL full: Overpair vs semi-shortstacked and loose-bad opponent..
 
vs loose and bad opponent....

errr, all in?

RED FACE 12-29-2005 10:32 AM

Re: 100NL full: Overpair vs semi-shortstacked and loose-bad opponent..
 
Thanks all. I lost stack to 68s by 3betting all in.


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