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DoomSlice 06-18-2005 12:59 PM

He\'s got aces damnit!!
 
This is a situation where it is absolutely right to fold a set, and I should be crucified for calling here. Villain is NOT aggressive and only raises 6% of his hands.

Shame on me!


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter

MP3 ($35.25)
CO ($25)
Hero ($30.3)
SB ($26.2)
BB ($31)
UTG ($23.53)
UTG+1 ($24.45)
MP1 ($71.15)
MP2 ($34.73)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds.

Flop: ($4.85) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 bets $2.5, Hero raises to $7, MP3 pushes, Hero calls.


Turn: ($50ish) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($50ish) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $4.85

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
MP3 has Ah Ac (three of a kind, aces).
Hero has Kc Kd (three of a kind, kings).
Outcome: MP3 wins $50ish. </font>

lawrence 06-18-2005 01:15 PM

Re: He\'s got aces damnit!!
 
Kids, this is your brain: [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

This is your brain on results oriented thinking: [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

DoomSlice 06-18-2005 01:18 PM

Re: He\'s got aces damnit!!
 
Well.. given his stats and my read, the only two hands he could have are AK and AA, since I've got KK, there are only 3 possible AK hands, and 3 possible AA hands. And the only time he has raised big before is with QQ, so I don't think he's raising AK to 8bbs.

I should have folded.

RiverFenix 06-18-2005 02:09 PM

Re: He\'s got aces damnit!!
 
[ QUOTE ]
Well.. given his stats and my read, the only two hands he could have are AK and AA, since I've got KK, there are only 3 possible AK hands, and 3 possible AA hands. And the only time he has raised big before is with QQ, so I don't think he's raising AK to 8bbs.

I should have folded.

[/ QUOTE ]

Youre only saying that based off of results. Feel free to continue folding 2nd nut hands for the rest of your poker career cause you have a hunch

Verdi 06-18-2005 02:14 PM

Re: He\'s got aces damnit!!
 
Funny how a single spade would have won this one ahead of two monster sets. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

mishafp 06-18-2005 02:14 PM

Re: He\'s got aces damnit!!
 
re-raise pre-flop.

poboy 06-18-2005 02:57 PM

Re: He\'s got aces damnit!!
 
Why no reraise pf, might have saved you some money. Had you reraised he would likely let you know right away if he has AA. Given the way you played it I would call. Also someone who raises 6% of their hands is raising alot more than just AA-QQ. JMO

wdbaker 06-18-2005 03:19 PM

Re: He\'s got aces damnit!!
 
Well, first off, what is up with the translation of this hand as far as the dollar amounts go, it looks all messed up if you look close.

Second, if he pushed all in that would put you previous to the all in with about a $12 investment and now needing to go $17 more to match his all in which should put the whole pot at $60

if this is a $25 buy in game I think I would call just because of the bad players calling with any A or K etc...

if this were a $100 or higher buyin i might toss it cause the guy has potentially a ton of outs to take you out especially if your read on him is close. he' could be four to a flush, already have a pair of AA's giving him a set, if AK he has a good chance of catching a boat and if A or K or both are spades he could catch the boat or flush, If I were him I would definately push on you.

Hind sight is 20/20 though, hard to toss a set of K's

If you were going to push yourself I think it should have been on the flop after his first raise.

One Street at a Time
wdbaker Denver, Co

DoomSlice 06-18-2005 03:32 PM

Re: He\'s got aces damnit!!
 
Meh, converter only displayed side pot results and I was 4-tabling when I posted this. Sorry for the errors.

FreakDaddy 06-18-2005 03:47 PM

Re: He\'s got aces damnit!!
 
[ QUOTE ]
Kids, this is your brain: [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

This is your brain on results oriented thinking: [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

Nice. It's funny because it's true....


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