109: KQo hand
 

No reads, because I'm essentially a 109 sng n00b.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) converter

MP2 (t1125)
Hero (t915)
Button (t1305)
SB (t1540)
BB (t1140)
UTG (t2135)
UTG+1 (t805)
MP1 (t1035)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t100.

Flop: (t325) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t150</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t425</font>,

Hero's action?

Re: 109: KQo hand
 

I fold here preflop, but otherwise I think you have to push - you have put in 1/3 of your stack, and got pretty much the flop you wanted. Exactly why I don't see the point of raising preflop if you fold this.

Calling on the flop makes little sense because only a bluff has proper fold equity to fold to your modest all-in reraise, and the bluff is unlikely to continue if called. Calling to get away from a club on the turn also seems quite weak.

Re: 109: KQo hand
 

I play preflop the same. I'd bet more on the flop though. I think you have to push the flop since you made such a weakish bet.

EDIT: At the 55s I like to open shove a flop like this. People call with tons of garbage "protecting their blind". I dunno if this is any different at the 109s.

Re: 109: KQo hand
 

I'd raise t125 preflop, because you don't mind them calling, you will have position anyway. I'd also raise that with any premium hand as well here. On flop I would bet slightly more (about 2/3rds pot), and probably fold to the raise.

Re: 109: KQo hand
 

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I play preflop the same. I'd bet more on the flop though. I think you have to push the flop since you made such a weakish bet.

EDIT: At the 55s I like to open shove a flop like this. People call with tons of garbage "protecting their blind". I dunno if this is any different at the 109s.

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Open push with only 350 in the pot? Well, that seems a bit extreme to me, considering you have over 750 left. I don't really like that line.

Re: 109: KQo hand
 

It's pretty tight I think. I think a read is the X-factor here. If you don't have one... sucks... but I don't think folding or pushing are huge mistakes, but I lean towards fold against an unknown.

Re: 109: KQo hand
 

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Open push with only 350 in the pot? Well, that seems a bit extreme to me, considering you have over 750 left. I don't really like that line.

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Well, maybe I haven't been shoving enough in this spot to make any conclusions. The 2/3 pot bet is obviously the standard play, but villains will almost always put me on AK/KQ. If I shove they will often put me on some sort of second pair, high card, club draw etc.

Atleast I hope this is the case.

Re: 109: KQo hand
 

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Flop: (t325) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t150</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t425</font>,

Hero's action?

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Isn't this the action you are hoping to get when you bet less than 50% of pot when it's checked to you? You got what you asked for....

Re: 109: KQo hand
 

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You got what you asked for....

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Why so foreboding? If you would usually bet more on the flop when checked to, please say so rather than guessing at the results of the hand or how I felt about being raised.

Re: 109: KQo hand
 

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You got what you asked for....

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Why so foreboding? If you would usually bet more on the flop when checked to, please say so rather than guessing at the results of the hand or how I felt about being raised.

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Foreboding, that was not my intent. I think that AK makes this play, as well as other Kx and non Kx hands, depending on how tricky villain is.