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ShortySaurus 12-12-2005 02:17 AM

insta fold with overpair 25/50
 
25/50, 5 handed I am SB, villain is BB. Villain is the tightest player here and pretty straight forward. He just won a big pot the previous hand when he flopped a set against an overpair and basically doubled up. Villain has 5000 and I have him covered.

I get Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Everyone limps, I make it 500 (yes i know...a bit excessive) in the SB. Villain minraises 500 more to 1000. Everyone folds. Hero calls.

Flop: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero checks, Villain bets 2000, Hero instafolds face up...

standard? besides the excessive raise preflop, does anyone do anything differently?

edge 12-12-2005 02:19 AM

Re: insta fold with overpair 25/50
 
Do you have set odds on the minraise (I think you do)? If so, fine. If not, fold preflop.

smurfitup 12-12-2005 02:20 AM

Re: insta fold with overpair 25/50
 
i dont play nl this high, but does the fact that he just doubled up the previous hand affect the hand range you give him there?

flawless_victory 12-12-2005 02:21 AM

Re: insta fold with overpair 25/50
 
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Hero instafolds face up...


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yeah, prob not your best move...

etizzle 12-12-2005 02:21 AM

Re: insta fold with overpair 25/50
 
i think the pf raise is fine, and if you have this good a read of him the flop fold is fine too. If he wont pay off KK on Qxx boards though you may consider folding preflop. This is all assuming your read is highly likely to be correct (i.e. you this isnt the first tiem you played with him).

ShortySaurus 12-12-2005 02:24 AM

Re: insta fold with overpair 25/50
 
also it should be added that villain is probably the least experienced at the table.....do you think his reraising preflop hand range opens up then?

ShortySaurus 12-12-2005 02:24 AM

Re: insta fold with overpair 25/50
 
why flawless?

etizzle 12-12-2005 02:37 AM

Re: insta fold with overpair 25/50
 
you dont want people to know that you are laying down QQ on a 662 board when lots of money went in preflop. If they are observant at all you are making things pretty difficult for yourself down the road.

ShortySaurus 12-12-2005 02:57 AM

Re: insta fold with overpair 25/50
 
what if villain shows a better hand? do you still think its a bad play ?

flawless_victory 12-12-2005 02:57 AM

Re: insta fold with overpair 25/50
 
ABSOLUTELY


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