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sfer 12-20-2005 10:56 AM

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Turns out Madison is closed to traffic and people are walking in the street. D'oh.

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Haha, and you can see Madison from your window, right?

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Yes, both. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

ononimo 12-20-2005 11:12 AM

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This sucks. On a side note: the MTA is run by a bunch of fumbling idiots. NYC subways = horrible service.

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name a more reliable mass transit system in America that is as extensive as NYC's and runs 24/7/365 (strike notwithstanding) ... oh, that's right: there is none.

the MTA organization itself might suck but our subways and buses most certainly do not.

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If you expanded your criteria to a world wide subway system, then NYC's ain't that great anymore. Brazil for example has some very reliable systems that are actually clean too. Many places in europe too. Its always amusing when foreigners from poor countries come to NYC and are disgusted by the subways...

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my challenge was specifically limited to the US because that was the comparison that was most relevant. since i live here and not overseas, being the best in the US is good enough for me.

i'm also sure that those foreigners from poor countries would likely trade their country's standard of living for ours, subways notwithstanding.

mrkilla 12-20-2005 12:09 PM

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Union to the MTA : "Were gonna strike!"

MTA to Union : " Are you threating me?!I am the great cornholio!! "

Union to the MTA : "We need a living wage !!"

MTA to Union : " You need TP for your bunghole?"

Sightless 12-20-2005 12:12 PM

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God damn HIPPIES! Why couldn't they wait one day! I have a final today and now it has been rescheduled for the first day untill the strike it's over andI will forget everythign by then!

mrkilla 12-20-2005 12:29 PM

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Average subway/bus operator salary is in the $50K-$60K range.

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Base starting salary for a NYC public school teacher with a BA is $39K. something doesn't seem right...

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YOur comparing an Average to a start salary. Average Salary for a Teacher is between 50-60 as well. NYPD police officers will earn $75,000 on average, after 5 1/2 years of service. Thats from there websites

Evan 12-20-2005 12:31 PM

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God damn HIPPIES! Why couldn't they wait one day! I have a final today and now it has been rescheduled for the first day untill the strike it's over andI will forget everythign by then!

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Where do you go to school?

Sightless 12-20-2005 12:35 PM

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God damn HIPPIES! Why couldn't they wait one day! I have a final today and now it has been rescheduled for the first day untill the strike it's over andI will forget everythign by then!

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Where do you go to school?

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CUNY

TheNoodleMan 12-20-2005 12:44 PM

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Average subway/bus operator salary is in the $50K-$60K range.

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Base starting salary for a NYC public school teacher with a BA is $39K. something doesn't seem right...

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And staring for an NYPD officer is $25k.

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Yeah but people want to be teachers and police officers. Those are professions that people routinely say that it isn't about the money, no transit worker would ever say that .

12-20-2005 01:07 PM

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I think they do a fine job considering that it's by far the largest subway system in the world.

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Do they do this in New York?

pokerdirty 12-20-2005 01:11 PM

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This sucks. On a side note: the MTA is run by a bunch of fumbling idiots. NYC subways = horrible service.

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name a more reliable mass transit system in America that is as extensive as NYC's and runs 24/7/365 (strike notwithstanding) ... oh, that's right: there is none.

the MTA organization itself might suck but our subways and buses most certainly do not.

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If you expanded your criteria to a world wide subway system, then NYC's ain't that great anymore. Brazil for example has some very reliable systems that are actually clean too. Many places in europe too. Its always amusing when foreigners from poor countries come to NYC and are disgusted by the subways...

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my challenge was specifically limited to the US because that was the comparison that was most relevant. since i live here and not overseas, being the best in the US is good enough for me.

i'm also sure that those foreigners from poor countries would likely trade their country's standard of living for ours, subways notwithstanding.

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you guys are all idiots.

12-20-2005 01:18 PM

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Sucked for me

LIRR train became a local and after i pulled into the station i was met by 20 mins of ppl traffic to get out of penn. Then walked across town to the PATH which took me into jersey before dropping me off back in NYC at teh World trade center then walked 10 mins to the WFC 3hrs:20mins

Duffman 12-20-2005 01:30 PM

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My dad is pissed. He's been working in the subways for 10+ years and he absolutely hates the union. For the past week conversations at dinner consisted of bashing the union, hoping they don't go on strike, and complaining about the phone messages Roger Toussant has been leaving us.

I don't understand the benefit of this strike at all. Everyone's getting fined 2 days pay for every day off work, and the union is getting fined 100k/day(I think). What's the point? Obviously you're not getting your contract.

jstnrgrs 12-20-2005 01:34 PM

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I took the subway every school day of the year for four years during high school, and took it 5-10x a day for the entire summer last year. IMHO, the delays are too frequent and unbearable. If you have waited on a subway platform for 2+ hours in 110 degree hot & humid conditions, you would know what I mean.

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I also took the subway to school every day. I think they do a fine job considering that it's by far the largest subway system in the world. That said, a lot depends on what lines you use. If you commute with the 4-5-6 trains, you're probably happy. If you schlep into Manhattan from Bay Ridge on the N-R trains (stands for "Never Running"), you might feel differently.

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A few years ago, I spent a summer living in NYC, and I took the R train every day. I never had a problem. The NYC subway is great. Everyone who is complaining should try spending some time in one of our many cities that have almost no public transit system.


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