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EMcWilliams 12-15-2005 05:38 PM

87s...a big draw to a push.
 
No stats on villian yet, as memory recalls he hadnt stood out in anyway. Seemed reasonable.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

UTG ($24.25)
MP ($14.15)
Hero ($25.50)
Button ($25.55)
SB ($47)
BB ($25.20)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">SB (poster) raises to $1.9</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $1.75, MP calls $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, Button folds.

Flop: ($8.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $6</font>, UTG folds, MP folds, Hero calls $6.

Implied odds are huge here IMO, as he is commiting himself to this hand and saying we are playing for all the marbles.

Turn: ($20.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Villian pushes, hero....

4_2_it 12-15-2005 05:45 PM

Re: 65659...a big draw to a push.
 
Against a set you are dead:

pokenum -h 8s 7s - 6s 6h -- 4s 6d 2s 9d
Holdem Hi: 44 enumerated boards containing 4s 2s 9d 6d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
8s 7s 13 29.55 31 70.45 0 0.00 0.295
6s 6h 31 70.45 13 29.55 0 0.00 0.705

Against an overpair you are in trouble:

pokenum -h 8s 7s - ad ah -- 4s 6d 2s 9d
Holdem Hi: 44 enumerated boards containing 4s 2s 9d 6d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
8s 7s 15 34.09 29 65.91 0 0.00 0.341
Ad Ah 29 65.91 15 34.09 0 0.00 0.659

You are a little worse than a coin flip with a pair of 6's:
pokenum -h 8s 7s - ad 6h -- 4s 6d 2s 9d
Holdem Hi: 44 enumerated boards containing 4s 2s 9d 6d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
8s 7s 21 47.73 23 52.27 0 0.00 0.477
Ad 6h 23 52.27 21 47.73 0 0.00 0.523

I can't find a call here.

EMcWilliams 12-15-2005 05:49 PM

Re: 65659...a big draw to a push.
 
To me it screamed over pair, and I was getting a little better than 2-1, which is about even against an overpair. Any others?

12-15-2005 05:51 PM

Re: 65659...a big draw to a push.
 
2:1 to hit your 15 outer, assuming clean outs, pot odds are 40%, 35:15 = 2.3:1, marginally profitable call. Take it if you're bankrolled.


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