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Dave5511 06-05-2005 03:54 AM

Big PL Hold \'Em river bet, what do you think?
 
Okay, PL .25/.50 $50 buy in at Party. UTG limps, folds to cut off who limps, button raises to 2.75. I'm SB, raise to $9.5 w/ 2 red nines.

** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 4c, 8s ]

SB bets [$12].
Button calls [$12].

** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]

SB bets [$15].
Button calls [$15].

** Dealing River ** [ Jc ]
SB checks.
Button bets all-In [$37.3]

I think for a bit here. Of course, AA, KK, QQ come to mind. Even AJ or KJ are hands I'm thinking about now.

However, the fact that he just called the big rasies/bets prelfop, flop, and turn can't escape my mind.

I think if he had AA, KK, QQ, he would have moved in on the TURN to try to capture the $15 bet then.

I think a bit longer, and finally decide he has AK.

What do you think?

Dave5511 06-05-2005 03:58 AM

Re: Big PL Hold \'Em river bet, what do you think?
 
I should have said, I started the hand w/about $80, he started w/about $70, and I have no strong read on his style yet.

wtfsvi 06-05-2005 04:23 AM

Re: Big PL Hold \'Em river bet, what do you think?
 
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I think a bit longer, and finally decide he has AK.

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I don't think you can expect a random villain to play AK like that. What do you think he has after he calls your flop bet? A8 is the only reasonable/probable hand you beat (and he's not pushing the river with that). I'm not saying villain has to have a reasonable hand, and he probably had AK this time since you're posting this, but I say shut down on the turn.

EDIT: Someone might make a case for just calling preflop. I think reraising is good.

Dave5511 06-05-2005 04:44 AM

Re: Big PL Hold \'Em river bet, what do you think?
 
wtfsvi, I'm not indifferent to what you're saying, but when reading the bets, what do you come up with?

Pot sized button raise w/ 2 limps and the 2 blinds sitting on the table.

That could be anything from AA to a steal.

I re-rasie the pot, making it 9.5, and he just calls.

Crafty player may make this play w/AA, KK, but your average player is probably hoping the flop is gonna hit him now.

J84 flop

$12 bet, and again, just a call.

Turn: 4.

$15 bet, and another call.

River brings a jack, putting 2 pair on the board.

He may think JJ44A is the best hand. I really think if he had a big pair, he makes his move on the turn. The monster bet on the river doesn't sound to me like he wants a call.

It's a huge pot, if he wants a call, wouldn't he bet out $10 or $20 that I may have to call?


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