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jenson 10-06-2005 07:58 AM

CB this flop?
 
UTG 29.53% / 6.41% / 1.19
MP3 49.46% / 10.75% / 2.80

I normally don't CB with two pre-flop callers and an Ace on the board. Now I'm starting to think that I played this weak tight.

His donk bets were giving me odds to stick around. I figured someone was slow playing.

How would you play this?

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.25 BB (10 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG+2 ($16.85)
MP1 ($77.75)
MP2 ($23.90)
<font color="#C00000">MP3 ($23.75)</font>
CO ($8.60)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($18.55)</font>
SB ($45.50)
BB ($12.60)
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($5)</font>
UTG+1 ($5.95)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $1.50, MP3 calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6.35) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $0.25</font>, Hero calls $0.25, UTG calls $0.25.

Turn: ($7.10) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $0.25</font>, Hero calls $0.25, UTG calls $0.25.

River: ($7.85) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $0.25</font>, Hero calls $0.25, UTG calls $0.25.

Final Pot: $8.60

Ojo_Rojo 10-06-2005 08:07 AM

Re: CB this flop?
 
I think there's still a reasonable chance youre ahead on this flop, that min-donkbet could mean anything. I would raise to about pot-size on the flop, and check-behind on the turn.

Ojo_Rojo

10-06-2005 08:25 AM

Re: CB this flop?
 
You're screwed on the flop. One of these two has an A. If not, then one has a K. Possibly both have one and will have a kicker duel. If you had wanted to find out, make a raise on the flop. About 40% of the pot would tell you for sure.

Let the ladies go and live to fight another day.

Riposte 10-06-2005 08:30 AM

Re: CB this flop?
 
Great board to CB on, especially with that retarded donk bet from MP. Raise that clown to full pot. If he raises, then you fold. Those lame minimum bets are almost always underpairs or overcards.

-Skeme- 10-06-2005 08:32 AM

Re: CB this flop?
 
Uh, raise more preflop or don't reraise?

jenson 10-06-2005 09:03 AM

Re: CB this flop?
 
-Skeme-, what do you suggest my pre-flop raise should be?

It's almost 1 1/2 times the size of the pot. Raise much more pre-flop and only better hands call, no? Maybe not with these donks I guess.

Anyone else think the pre-flop raise is too small?

Thanks,
jenson

troymclur 10-06-2005 09:26 AM

Re: CB this flop?
 
easy re-raise. pot the flop, if called you're dead to another queen. I don't mind the PF raise, you don't want to raise too much as you still want action, but that all depends on how the table is being played. If 2 dollar raises are common, then you probably should have raised more like 3-4.

-Skeme- 10-06-2005 01:11 PM

Re: CB this flop?
 
I'm sorry, I misread the hand. I thought this was $.25/$.50 and both opponent's limped. Raise is alright.


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