Skillpoker.com Invites you to our launch
 

All,
I just got this in my e-mail, what do you think, sounds like more hocus pokus to me [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Subject: Skillpoker.com Invites you to our launch
To: wdbaker
From: info@skillpoker.com Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 23:21 -0700

Dear Players,

Thank you for supporting the SkillPoker.com (TM) community over the past few months.

I would like to invite you to our launch tomorrow at 12PM EST or 9AM PST where we unveil North America's Only Legal Online Poker site.

We will be offering cash prizes for both fixed hand and multilevel knock out tournaments for a short period of time before launching the real money pay for play patent pending SkillPoker system.

Please do not hesitate to contact us for any further information and we hope you will visit our new website, http://www.skillpoker.com for news and the full explanation of the SkillPoker system.

Sincerely,
SkillPoker.com Inc.


Mark Glusing
President
info@skillpoker.com


SkillPoker.com Inc. is a wholly owned subsidiary of LegalPlay Entertainment Inc. a public company trading under symbol PKER.

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i wonder how many fish will be attracted to play at a site where they are led to believe that there is no luck involved? i still marvel at some of my less educated friends who refuse to believe there is skill in this game.

not to mention, the lack of deposit bonus (or at least a clearly advertised one) is likely to leave them with a lot of trouble building a user base.

by the way, i hope you all realize this is just legal mumbo-jumbo and the site will have no more or less luck involved than any other. either way, i predict a quick demise for the site if they do not make a fish feel more welcome.

Re: Skillpoker.com Invites you to our launch
 

Their stock is at 15 cents, and I get the feeling it belongs there. If they have an American gaming commission license instead of the standard Kahnawake, they're required to demand your SSN# as soon as you win your first $500. Then they submit a full report on you to the IRS.

Yeah, sign me up...lol.

It\'s Duplicate Hold \'em
 

From the SkillPoker website:
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You are dealt cards at your table in the normal way and you start playing Poker and betting in the normal way. The players at the other 4 tables get the identical hands as dealt at your table. Therefore, seat No 1 at the 2nd table, 3rd table and 4th table get the same cards as you do. The objective is therefore to play better than them and this is achieved by winning the most money compared to all the other players in seat No 1 at the other tables. You are not competing with players at your table, you are competing with the players in Seat No 1 at all the other tables.

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Ummm... uhhh... can you spell IM?

Re: It\'s Duplicate Hold \'em
 

Good lord this is gonna work out badly [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: It\'s Duplicate Hold \'em
 

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Ummm... uhhh... can you spell IM?


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SkillPoker development costs: 000s of investor dollars.
Advertising cost of hyping revolutionary skill-based poker: more 000s of investor dollars.
17 seconds of thinking by Terry to debunk: Priceless

I can't see why the stock is at 15 cents.

Re: Skillpoker.com Invites you to our launch
 

"You are dealt cards at your table in the normal way and you start playing Poker and betting in the normal way. The players at the other 4 tables get the identical hands as dealt at your table."

Hmmm, it sounds like this approach has just opened new and untested opportunities for collusion. My buddies in the same position at other tables play their hands really badly to make me look good and win. I wonder how many other collusion opportunities the new game rules opens?

Even if there isn't collusion, my results are still the result of my luck in getting seated against players that play worse than me.

Skill? IMO the skill is in the management of this company. They have run their stock price up from a year low of $0.01 to a yearly high of $0.25. Now that is definitely skillful [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

skillpoker ties to \"thepokerclub\"...
 

Actually Frozen, the stock should be at .000000015! You people be careful out there at skillpoker or thepokerclub...the operators don't know dickk about poker, only investment scheming.

http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/new...e=htx\http2_mw

signed by: Michael Jackson

http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/new...e=htx\http2_mw

signed by: Mark Glusing

Any real hijacking was of Michael Jackson's Antico Holding's thepokerclub's debt of approx. $1,000,000 due the PKER-shareholders.

cmwings/mrducks

I don\'t see how these press releases show investment schmeing n/m
 

Re: Skillpoker.com Invites you to our launch
 

by the way, i hope you all realize this is just legal mumbo-jumbo and the site will have no more or less luck involved than any other.

Actually, if you read the way the game works, there is less luck in the sense that you're not dependant on the fall of the cards. There is still luck in that your results will in large part be based on the table you draw. If you're at a difficult table, you're screwed, pretty much.

Neat, they accept PayPal
 

That might help bring in the fish. Although I would say this whole "duplicate hold'em" thing is pretty confusing to newbies, probably. Plus they're not offering any bonuses.

Re: Skillpoker.com Invites you to our launch
 

Actually it depends on who is sitting in your spot and playing your hands at the other tables.

Of course the new possibilities for collusion appear open-ended IMO. However, collusion probably isn't going to matter much since I doubt any serious poker player is going to want to "bias" his game strategies to play this LunnyPoker from LaLa land.

Re: I don\'t see how these press releases show investment schmeing n/m
 

lunchmeat, I guess neither do the 18 real-money players currently playing at "thepokerclub" at this moment.

I don't get it? Poker is about drawing CONCLUSIONS from inferences more correctly and faster than your opponent. Yes? No? And we all consider ourselves top-players? Right?

Seriously, you people steer clear of those two sites, skillpoker & thepokerclub, refusing to attach both names, Mark Glusing and Michael Jackson to each site! Something's not right because both names are attached to PKER in SEC-File and PKER-PR. Yes? So what's to HIDE?????

cmwings/mrducks

Re: Skillpoker.com Invites you to our launch
 

Actually, it depends on both. And I don't quite see how you'd want to change your strategy.

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What difference does it make? Let's say you are dealt 27o, you fold, and another guy at the same seat of another table called. Flop 2 2 7, now who gets the money?

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What difference does it make? Let's say you are dealt 27o, you fold, and another guy at the same seat of another table called. Flop 2 2 7, now who gets the money?

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Exactly what I want to know, please someone tell me ! ! !

Re: Skillpoker.com Invites you to our launch
 

Thats a joke...I am in seat 1, and my friend is in seat 2...now i know seat 2's hole cards every single hand...now you can do that for every single spot...woppy ti due...bad idea...

Whats wrong with thepokerclub? I dont play there, just am curious, as I heard its bad, just never heard reasons...why isn't it poker.com anymore? poker.com sounds like a way better domain...(i'm assuming they got their hijacked domain back)

Re: Skillpoker.com Invites you to our launch
 

jumpthru no, they (PKER) didn't get the URL back. The Poker.com URL is now linked to microgaming's primapoker (& Ladbrokes), which have their own growing problems, but are legit all the way IMEO from my past experiences at thegamingclub, royalvegas, aztecriches, and Ladbrokes.

What's wrong w/thepokerclub is management! The same management responsible for losing the poker.com URL. Read the old PKER-PR 12/9/02...

"Poker.com Inc. will vigorously pursue its rights to the domain and will hold those responsible for the hijacking of the domain responsible for any and all damages resulting from the re-direction."

http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/new...e=htx\http2_mw

yeah right! those guys will vigorously pursue your and my dollars anyway they can, no matter how stoopid their invitation!

cmwings/mrducks

Re: Skillpoker.com Invites you to our launch
 

So how did they lose such a PRIME domain??

Re: Skillpoker.com Invites you to our launch
 

Based on this, couldn't you get friends at all 4 tables in each different seat and as such, know all the hole cards of every user every hand??

Potential Skillpoker.com anti-colluding tools
 

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Based on this, couldn't you get friends at all 4 tables in each different seat and as such, know all the hole cards of every user every hand??

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Bingo.

This format could reward collusion an order of magnitude more than 2 players sitting at the same table IM'ing hole cards.

One key to dramatically reduce how easy colluding could potentially be is to change the sequence of the hands for each table/group. In other words, if the tourney is 100 hands long, table 1 could receive hole/board cards for hands 1,2,3, 4... while table 2 might receive cards from hand 10,20,30, and table 3 100,99, etc.

They could also shuffle the suits between tables to make it slightly more tricky to distinguish the hands at different tables from each other (e.g., if seat #1 will flop a KQ-high flush on hand #37, they could make it be in a different suit for each table).

They also could give each player the same hole cards more than once. (e.g., this prevents colluder #1 from telling colluder #2 definitively what the flop will be the next time colluder #2 has AJs in the hole).

With these and a few other defenses in place, it certainly would be HARDER, but still not impossible for colluders to get an edge.

The good news is that cheaters are essentially a lazy lot or mercenaries looking out only for their own bottom line. So making it annoying and complex while lowering the risk-reward ratio could go a long way in reducing collusion.

One other thought a little further out there- if this site is in US soil, is it possible that cheating/colluding could become a criminal / prosecutable offense for US players? In other words, could they boost the risk end of the risk-reward equation for cheating higher by creating the perception that you have more to lose than your playing privleges & bankroll ala a felony charge?

J

Re: Skillpoker.com Invites you to our launch
 

Skill poker does sound pretty hokey to me. first it seems that luck of the draw still plays a factor, maybe not your cards but your oponents, so just b/c you play your cards the same as someone at another table doesn't mean you'll make more money. And I was also wondering if it may not be theoretically beatable. I havn't worked this all out but say you and the 3 others in your "group" play all hands the same except for 1. on this hand you are 3-1 to make a hand but you don't have the pot odds so you fold, but your oponents all call. in the long run even though u did the corect thing if you always had aponents who did this would't you end up a loser?

Another funny thing is they have this story about an oline gambler who was arested. I guess its a scare story but it's about as mimor a penalty as you can get and it actually made me more confident in the legality of online poker. So the story is this guy in north dakota became a pro sports gambler, and reported this on his taxes etcc. It said that this type of "offshore" betting is legal under federal law but in ND it wasn't, when he found out he moved and got a slap on the rist from the state. SO they should have a corner on the ND market but as for the rest of the us maybe not. So online poker is legal under federal law and cirtainly ok in one of the several states where poker is legal.

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jumpthru, It's a long story. Some of it explained in my old posts here. Read my correspondence w/thepokerclub's Patricia Murphy...she state's the URL is hers, LMAO! PKER-management's "vigorous pursuit"is now pending, some 9 months later and after already losing a domain-abritration, in the British Columbia court.THEY WILL LOSE! Why did a legitimate outfit such as microgaming cease using PKER's software to use another...and...immediately begin using the URL? Answer: PKER-management are flakes, the owners of the "poker.com" URL are not.

Another question...the PKER-shareholders used to be the beneficiary of "thepokerclub"s earnings (at least on paper cause Antico never paid), now the shareholders are not. Whether skillpoker has merit or not...why aren't the PKER-shareholders the beneficiary of BOTH???!!!

And issuance of the skillpoker press release was to
stock-investors...not to poker-players! Has anyone seen a skillpoker advertisement in a POKER-forum? Answer: PKER-management must not be focusing on players but their focus in on investors! Print shares and sell them to yaps.

cmwings/mrducks

Re: Skillpoker.com Invites you to our launch Part II
 

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Subject: Join SkillPoker.com's Bonus Multilevel Tournaments at 10pm EST Tonight!
To: info@skillpoker.com
From: info@skillpoker.com
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 16:59 -0700

Welcome to SkillPoker.com (TM) – North America's only Legal online poker site!

As many of you are aware, we have launched SkillPoker in its final testing stage and are offering a number of cash prizes to tournament winners.

We are hosting the first of the free entry Bonus Round multilevel tournaments this evening at 10PM Eastern Standard Time / 7 PM Pacific Standard Time where the final two players in each tournament will compete for their share of the pot! The tournaments will consist of knock out rounds starting with four four player tables!

We invite all of our players to join us for a chance at a seat in Bonus Round tournaments starting at 10PM Eastern Standard Time / 7 PM Pacific Standard Time.

Here are a few things to remember :

1) Tournaments start when the minimum number of players are registered - typically 8 players for general tournaments.

2) All tournament winners will receive cash prizes in the real money accounts for tournaments won during the testing period.

3) We urge you to read the SkillPoker rules prior to playing. This will enhance your understanding of the game.

Thank you for playing at SkillPoker.com and stay tuned for more promotions and news on SkillPoker.com

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This was the second e-mail I got, I tried to sign up for the tournament but the sight is a little confusing to me as far as the tournament stuff but I think it was free, who the heck knows, just keeping you informed.