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Akimka 12-26-2005 02:47 PM

Simple 77 HU hand.
 
Call this down or fold?

CO is 30/4/1.7

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, MP1 folds, CO calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB

12-27-2005 02:59 PM

Re: Simple 77 HU hand.
 
I say fold the turn. Most likely he's slowplaying trips.

jskills 12-27-2005 03:31 PM

Re: Simple 77 HU hand.
 
Fold the turn, he's holding a King.

Azhrarn 12-27-2005 05:53 PM

Re: Simple 77 HU hand.
 
Well, he's representing trips or a full house. That's pretty unambiguous. So it's a question of whether or not he's bluffing often enough for a call down to be worthwhile. From his stats, he's pretty aggressive, so calling down should at least be considered.

We're getting 3.5 to 1 on a call down. On that basis, he needs to be bluffing 20 to 25% of the time for a call down to be correct. But there are some other factors to consider.

To our benefit:

He'll sometimes not bet the river with a hand we beat.

To our detriment:

He's much more likely to improve than we are. If he has a two or a five, he may have an overcard on us as well. More importantly, there are two flush draws on the board, and that is what he'll have a lot of the time we are ahead of him on the turn. And he'll usually have one or two overcards on us if he does have a flush draw. Finally, he's aggressive enough that we can't count on him not fire off a bluff on the river.

All of this is a long way of saying implied odds are against us. To compensate, I'd want to feel he was bluffing or semibluffing at least 1 in 3 times here before I called him down. I don't think you can be that confident if your only read on him is his stat line. So I would fold. But with a better read, this could definitely be a call-down situation.

silkyslim 12-27-2005 08:11 PM

Re: Simple 77 HU hand.
 
sans reads id fold the turn. if it was a blind steal/defense situation id be more inclined to call down.

12-27-2005 10:21 PM

Re: Simple 77 HU hand.
 
Pretty easy fold on the turn here. Small pot, we are behind most of the time and he has to bluffing here way too many times given the size of the pot to make the call down profitable.


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