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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 6 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero ($98)
UTG ($62.60)
MP ($140.70)
CO ($100)
Button ($255.90)
SB ($15.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, MP raises to $2, CO calls $2, Button calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $8, MP raises to $20, CO calls $18, Button folds, Hero calls $11.

Flop: ($62.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $20, CO calls $20, Hero folds.

I know I can't have played this right. What is right in this spot?

Krishan

You aknowledged by laying this down on the flop its very likely you're against a better overpair.

The standard line is playing JJ for set value, unless you have position.

The problem w/ folding $20 is you're getting great odds. I would consider leading the flop; did you have any reads?

I probably fold this preflop to the re-reraise. You are calling for set value as surely you have to put MP on AA or KK. I'm not sure that you therefore have odds to call the extra $12.

I'm also folding on the flop, even though it seems 1 hell of an odd bet

I play full ring, not 6max, but i dont normally reraise JJ OOP

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I probably fold this preflop to the re-reraise.

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I think this might be correct. If it isn't, [ QUOTE ]
, but i dont normally reraise JJ OOP

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I think I like the flop fold. But because I fold the flop I think the previous streets have to be wrong.

Krishan

With no reads, villian almost always has AA,KK, QQ. The preflop reraise isn't a bad idea initially, but when you get popped back that much I think you have to lay it down because the stacks aren't deep enough for you to get paid off if you nail your set. Wait for a better spot.

Calling and playing for set value is a good default play here. If you have a good feel for the table, and decide to raise PF, you need to raise more. All you did was sweeten the pot a little making it $8. Make it $12 minimum.