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hemstock 12-29-2005 12:42 PM

Underpair with 2 overcards
 
SB is very fishy 35/9/.9
BB is also passive 73/0/.2

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP folds.

Turn: (5.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>

That's the last money I'm investing here. The plan is of course to fold to any aggression.

jively 12-29-2005 12:46 PM

Re: Underpair with 2 overcards
 
Looks good to me. If the River is a 9, you might bet again and get paid.

-Tom

Dave G. 12-29-2005 12:49 PM

Re: Underpair with 2 overcards
 
This looks pretty standard to me. Bet the turn, fold to a checkraise, and take a free showdown UI. I can't see any other way to play it.

kidcolin 12-29-2005 01:27 PM

Re: Underpair with 2 overcards
 
I can. I think you have a thin value bet on a lot of blank rivers against those two guys. You have a definite value bet if it's heads up on the river and a blank falls, especially against the big blind.

12-29-2005 01:58 PM

Re: Underpair with 2 overcards
 
turn bet is standard imo. I can see betting the river too if you get heads up and if the river blanks depending on how much the opponent pays off.

JoshuaD 12-29-2005 01:59 PM

Re: Underpair with 2 overcards
 
[ QUOTE ]
This looks pretty standard to me. Bet the turn, fold to a checkraise, and take a free showdown UI. I can't see any other way to play it.

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Paradigm 12-29-2005 02:09 PM

Re: Underpair with 2 overcards
 
I like the turn bet and your action from there seems proper.

kidcolin 12-29-2005 04:02 PM

Re: Underpair with 2 overcards
 
I'm pretty surprised a river value bet isn't being considered more. These guys are bad and will pay off with just about anything. The Ts doesn't matter that much. It's a lot less likely to pair someone up than an A or K. i.e., if it were an 8, I'm sure a lot of players would be value betting a good river. The T shouldn't shift the decision that much.

I'm pretty sure I'd be betting any card less than a T on the river if I din't get c/r'd on the turn. I'd definitely bet any card less than a T if it went HU to the river.

FishNChips 12-29-2005 04:08 PM

Re: Underpair with 2 overcards
 
went to sd% and won$ at sd% would be beneficial here to get a better understanding of just how low their calldown standards are.

I agree with Kidcolin that HU against either there is some value in a river bet. Against both though, I think I'm trying to get a showdown.

In general I like the line.
FishNChips

brazilio 12-29-2005 04:57 PM

Re: Underpair with 2 overcards
 
I bet the river


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