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jcm4ccc 08-21-2005 06:16 PM

Help on the turn
 
Early in a $25 tournament, no reads. I didn't know what to do on the turn. I didn't want to give a free card, but I was also worried that I was being set up.

***** Hand History for Game 2569776662 *****

Seat 1: Osccol (985)
Seat 2: nukrouz (970)
Seat 3: woodeye4u (910)
Seat 4: NateHate (2095)
Seat 5: tamchb (1030)
Seat 6: Kvanmo (895)
Seat 7: kudogg2004 (880)
Seat 8: Kradical (1015)
Seat 9: boilerbengal (1210)
Seat 10: rogejohn (990)

tamchb posts small blind (10)
Kvanmo posts big blind (15)

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to NateHate A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

kudogg2004 folds.
Kradical calls (15)
boilerbengal calls (15)
4 folds
NateHate raises (60) to 60
tamchb folds.
Kvanmo calls (45)
Kradical calls (45)
boilerbengal calls (45)

** Dealing Flop ** : T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Kvanmo checks.
Kradical bets (60)
boilerbengal folds.
NateHate raises (200) to 200
Kvanmo calls (200)
Kradical folds.

** Dealing Turn ** : 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Kvanmo checks.
NateHate ??

CardSharpCook 08-21-2005 06:25 PM

Re: Help on the turn
 
Naw this is easy. Bet here, about 350 should be right. If you are raised, you can safely fold. If he calls, you check behind on the river. The idea is, he can incorrectly call with his Q or he'll raise/call with his hand that is better than TPTK. Check behind on the river because the number of hands he calls with that are losing to you, are far fewer than thenumber of hands he calls that are beating you.

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Matador225 08-21-2005 06:28 PM

Re: Help on the turn
 
There's always the possibility you are being set up but I don't see how you can check the turn. You have TPTK with an inside straight draw to the nuts and the villain may very well be a fish calling with a weak king or even on the open ended straight draw with a queen. Easy bet of 2/3 the pot IMO.

jcm4ccc 08-21-2005 06:32 PM

Re: Help on the turn
 
[ QUOTE ]
Naw this is easy. Bet here, about 350 should be right. If you are raised, you can safely fold.

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Well, I did the first part correctly (well, a little weaker. I bet 225). But really fold to a raise? The villian only has about 650 chips. So you are folding to only 300 chips, when there would be about 1200 chips in the middle.


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