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12-17-2005 09:29 AM

AJo from BB, questioning flop play.
 
Sorry about the crap format, bison's converter seems to be down.

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Hold 'em
Seat 1: ChicagoSurfer ($7.35)
Seat 2: Jabaut ($43.50)
Seat 4: jshounddog ($9)
Seat 5: themagician101 ($19.80)
Seat 6: First Ace ($17.75)
Seat 7: Dom Vincent ($19.15)
Seat 8: DrModern ($24.65)
Seat 9: abc123445 ($8.50)
Dom Vincent posts the small blind of $0.10
DrModern posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DrModern [Ah Jd]
abc123445 folds
ChicagoSurfer calls $0.25
Jabaut calls $0.25
jshounddog calls $0.25
themagician101 folds
First Ace raises to $0.50
Dom Vincent folds
DrModern calls $0.25
ChicagoSurfer calls $0.25
Jabaut calls $0.25
jshounddog calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [Qc Js 2d]
DrModern checks
ChicagoSurfer bets $0.25
Jabaut folds
jshounddog calls $0.25
First Ace raises to $0.50
DrModern folds...

For some reason I find myself questioning this. Is this a standard fold? What would your line be here?

topspin 12-17-2005 01:04 PM

Re: AJo from BB, questioning flop play.
 
Full Tilt Poker ($2/$4 Limit Hold'em) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB folds, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (14.5 SB) [Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero folds.

Decision seems close but I lean towards a fold. The odds are attractive (~1:10 if it doesn't get 3-bet behind you) but none of your outs are clean: A's are dirty if Button has AQ/AJ, and you're drawing virtually dead against QQ/JJ. Button is also less likely to be raising the flop with air in a protected pot.

If it gets checked to Button and he bets, you're raising, right?

Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) 12-18-2005 01:38 AM

Re: AJo from BB, questioning flop play.
 
Preflop is close, depending on your read of the Button.

TGiven your preflop call I think the flop fold is fine.

DCWildcat 12-18-2005 03:13 AM

Re: AJo from BB, questioning flop play.
 
Preflop: Great
Flop: Great. Perfect time for a C/R but with two back, possibility of a 3-bet, etc., good fold in what would be a close call at best.

A+

12-18-2005 05:11 PM

Re: AJo from BB, questioning flop play.
 
I've got the button in my stats as 1.72% pfr over 160 hands.


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